If there were ever a pair of weaklings on the same ticket, it would have to be Donald Trump and Mike Pence. Even Olivia Troye, who was Pence’s assistant, says about him, “He’s not evil, he’s weak.” Which in some cases may accomplish worse things than being evil. As to Trump, the way he bashes “losers” for being “weak” says all you need to hear. Any first semester psychology student could tell you that that is not the way strong people talk. A strong and courageous man has compassion, not contempt, for the weaker fearful man.
In any event, these were the two characters in power when Trump made his mysterious trip to Walter Reed. Now we are given to know that he went there for a colonoscopy, which he decided that he would do without anesthesia. Excuse me while I go turn off the bullshit alarm. It just started blaring and it may explode. Business Insider:
Bush, who underwent a colonoscopy in 2007, temporarily signed over the powers of the presidency to then-Vice President Dick Cheney.
But Trump, Grisham writes, was so reluctant to hand over those presidential powers to Vice President Mike Pence that he underwent the procedure without anesthesia, the book says, with Grisham adding that Trump didn’t want to be “the butt of a joke” of TV comedians.
I am not a doctor, but I don’t think it’s possible to do that procedure without anesthetic. I can tell you from my own personal experience that the last colonoscopy I had in early 2020 was messed up due to the anesthetic, i.e., I started coming out of it and screaming. That happened twice during the procedure. In repeating this story to other people who had undergone the same procedure, I was told, “that was a bad eff up on the doctor’s part.” So I don’t think it’s physically possible, but again, if Trump feels he can fool the MAGAs into believing it, then that’s all that matters, right?
And as to not wanting to turn over the reins to Pence, that is just flat out negligent. The safety of the country comes first, not Trump’s ego, but this is nothing new.
I am wondering if the doctors told him something in order to placate him, and he thought he wasn’t under anesthetic? Either that, or he’s making this up out of whole cloth. And again, I only have my personal experience to go by but I can tell you first hand from that, you don’t want to start to wake up while a colonoscopy is going on. It was extremely unpleasant.
And I’m just going to flat out say it: I really think I’ve got at least as much mettle in the pain tolerance area as Donald Trump. I think he’s full of it. I don’t think he did that procedure without anesthetic and moreover I think it might be medical malpractice to even consider letting a patient do that. If you started moving around on the table with an instrument in you, you could get very injured.
Yet another implausible tale from Trump world.
But he’s a genius (or is that genie u/s – as in ‘unservicable’?) and no doubt a great hero who probably instructed the surgical team how to do it while he was on the table. To me he was always the sort of patient who would demand anaesthetic to have a splinter removed from his finger.
To be honest, he probably locked the door to the oval office and hid the key so that Pence couldn’t get in and use his ‘fetch me a coke’ button.
Then again, Pence probably hid when he thought he might actually have to DO something apart from genuflecting to the Mighty Trump
It’s possible to do it with sedation, rather than anesthesia, or so I’ve been told. But it isn’t pleasant, and you still have to do all that prep.
(The prep beforehand is another reason to question this story.)
You’re comment about prep stuff has me in need of barrels of brain bleach. This is TRUMP we are talking about – do you think for one second he’d do the couple of days of prep and then drink that stuff that causes a final flush out? Hell no! He’d have eaten the usual shit he always does including breakfast and to hell with his colon being full of shit and chunks of not fully digested burnt steak and greasy fast food! If chunks of shit were to fly out around the colonoscopy probe (instead of just air/gas) and on to the people doing the procedure Trump would probably take pleasure in their humiliation! Kind of a bonus form of payback for his imaginings of them later cracking jokes about his fat ass. It would never occur to him they’ve seen all sorts of nasty butts and assholes and that his would be just another one. But I for one don’t believe he went through one bit of prep. Not him. And I shudder to think of the mess left on the bed when it was all done. Or on the wall – we are all fart blasting machines for a while after it’s done. Only in Trump’s case it wouldn’t be farts or even sharts but actual shit flying out of him. I pity the aides that had to tend to him as he screamed at them to clean up mess after mess.
It is in fact possible to do it without anesthesia or even sedation but it’s tough even for a quick one where there are no areas that require extra scrutiny or pollyp removal. Sedation without knocking someone out is often done and my first colonoscopy was done that way. I was uncomfortable but mentioned it and asked how much longer so they didn’t quite complete it even though I insisted I was okay to get it done. Since then however they’ve always put me under general anesthesia. I’m okay with it because even with only sedation they insist on my having a driver to take me home and with the VA at least they insist on that driver checking in with you and hanging out in the waiting room.
Anyway I think we all know damn well Trump is nowhere near tough enough to undergo the procedure without any sedation at all, but perhaps he did have it done with only sedation and with military docs he could threaten probably got all he needed including enough that he should have had to temporarily turn things over to Pence. But they let him get away with not doing so.
I’ve had a colonoscopy done with enough sedative to keep me awake but numbs the pain down. And I’ve had numerous ones done with full amount of drugs to go to sleep during the whole process.
The ones where I was asleep were great. The one half asleep was very very uncomfortable. Took so much out of me I had to sit for twenty minutes before I could walk out of the place. My face was ashen! This type is old school. I don’t think they are done that way any longer. Trump could have done it this way and claimed he was not out, technically he wasn’t.
Nope, it wasn’t a colonoscopy. It was some sort of unscheduled urgency. A colonoscopy takes most of a day to prep for. Judging from the furious sudden rush to get him down to Walter Reed he wouldn’t have had time for a prep. He’s counting on us having forgotten the furious bustle. I haven’t forgotten.
More likely a TIA or small stroke, judging from the foot drag and the one eyelid drooping. But he wouldn’t want to admit that, so instead he pretends to be real macho, having a colonoscopy without anesthesia.
How would they even tell which end to put the camera in? And if they did get the wrong end (or would that be the right end?), they would probably remove the cancerous polyp that passes for jt’s “brain”!
I agree that any story from Trump may well be a self-aggrandizing lie.
But if you do some research you can confirm that while quite uncommon, some get a colonoscopy with no anesthetic-nor sedatives.
I fought to have this done, & the quicker & less painful (10 minutes as opposed to 25) upper endoscopy.
It is painful. There are cramps & when sometimes a lot of pain when the tube with a camera is twisting through your lower digestive track.
But(t) it goes in waves. IF it was all as painful as the worst few minutes, that would seem kind of like torture.
But(t) since the pain relents often, you can breathe through it.
My Doctor offered to stop when I needed it, but I did not need a break then.
Dr. Traube of NYU Langone at 355 West 52nd Street NY NY 10019.
Only some will even do it, everyone is (often too) concerned about legal liability or breaking the mold. He tried to discourage me from trying, because if he needed to stop it would be a wasted event.
But he ended up proud of me! Said he had another GI man who sought him out to do it cold, & one dude told him “I’m Russian; It’s nothing”.
If tolerable, I wanted to be aware & experience things. And they had screwed around with my scheduling & I resented having to wait afterwards when there changes prevented me from getting the escort they require to take you home…Although I was very close & needed to cross zero streets & they cannot legally stop you from leaving anyway…
The “movie” of my insides was in front of me on the screen.
While Trump could not care less about anything besides himself, theoretically if there is no drug to compromise judgement, then it is not irresponsible to do it absent any drugs.
Some folks are very tough but monstrous.
Trump does not seem to be a tough sociopath though. He confesses to being a germaphobe & is despite his life-saving reality show is afraid to fire people face to face. And he lied about going down to lead the insurrection…
So these are more reasons to be skeptical about his story.
Anything that falls out of the mouth of a pathological liar is a lie until PROVEN otherwise. Why we take anything he said as having any grain of truth is ludicrous. The man has lied about people in photographs. He has been caught on audio & videotape NUMEROUS times. Brings to mind, “fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.”
For Trump, a botched colonoscopy could result in brain damage
What makes any of you think that “mysterious trip to Walter Reed” was for the purpose of tRump having a colonoscopy? He undoubtedly lied about what they did to him, and you could substitute brain surgery and he would have said he had no anesthesia! What they say is true: you know tRump’s lying because he’s talking (or posting on whatever social media platforms haven’t taken away his privileges).
Didn’t get knocked out for the magical mystery tour hmm? This is cadet bone spurs we’re talking about right? Something about this just doesn’t ring true. Oh wait, yeah it came from former guy’s pie hole. That explains it.