This wasn’t a Will Smith moment, insofar as it was not an anger management issue, but it is something that you won’t see everyday, which is why I include it here. Jane Fonda presented the award for Best Director at this year’s Cannes Film Festival. The winner, Justine Triet, was so blissed out, apparently, that she didn’t think to take the actual, physical award from Fonda. So Fonda threw it at her. That’s a way of doing your presenting job, I guess.
Here’s Fonda’s speech.
Le plus beau discours du #FestivaldeCannes. Celui que l’on retiendra, celui de Jane Fonda, l’intelligence au service de l’exception cultuelle française et du 7e Art. Merci pour la grandeur du message. pic.twitter.com/DgnXKYOTWu
— Laurent Dogrel (@laurentdogrel) May 27, 2023
Here’s the director obliviously walking away as Fonda hurls.
Merci à Jane Fonda qui lance dans le dos de Justine Triet, son prix oublié sur le pupitre après son discours politisée.
— Seb ! 🇪🇺 🇫🇷 🇧🇪 🇳🇱 🇺🇦 (@seb_a_volonte) May 27, 2023
Here’s another shot of it.
Ok donc la vraie Queen c’est Jane Fonda pic.twitter.com/cFZwv0Akmq
— andrzej 🇵🇱🇫🇷🇪🇺 (@andzejkra) May 27, 2023
It’s a good thing that Jane isn’t the Queen of England and knighting people. She might take the sword and run somebody through with it.
Very odd.
If that’s supposed to be funny, it is!
What isn’t funny is seeing Jane Fonda’s excessive plastic surgery.
She reminds me of Cat Woman
I’m surprised that someone of Fonda’s pride & intelligence would take it to the limit.
Actually, way beyond the limit. It’s sad.
One doesn’t have to age gracefully if they don’t care to
but I don’t think it’s necessary or desirable to age as tragically as Fonda has
no one cares about your critic woody. it’s tragic that you posted this at all. I hope your judged and ridiculed similarly.
She hasn’t had that much done. She STILL looks like Jane Fonda and she’s 80. Simon cowbell & Tom cruise are in their 50’s and unrecognizable. Frankly, men being ‘critical’ of women’s ‘cosmetic’ surgery only demonstrates how intimidated thst man is by women. This guy has shown himself to be a misogynist who has insecurity & confidence problems around women. A woman like Jane Fonda likely intimidates him so much that he can only counter those feelings by ‘criticizing’. These are the same men that ‘need’ AR-15’s. They need something to compensate for their ‘shortcomings. Real or perceived.
A lot of us would like to get some work done if we could afford it, but likely for a refresher instead of trying to turn back the clock.
Ms. Fonda’s decisions are her business and don’t affect us. But throwing the award was kinda strange.
she would have never done that to a … man!!!
I’m not so sure about that. But I’d also say in my life (and I’m an old fart now) that as awful as I’ve seen women talked to, about and treated by men I’ve also seen (often) women be just as vicious towards other women as anything men have done.
She would have never done that to a … man!!!
Girls Power???
Instead of putting this dreck in Politizoom, you could have put another woozle thingy; it’d be about as valuable and quite frankly more fun to look at. Not sure why anyone here at PZ thought anyone else would care what this silly woman does. She is famous because her father was a notable actor–more of the nepo thing PZ is always bitching about in others so putting this in is more than a little asinine.
Yes, like so many others she got a leg up in her acting career because of her family connections. But even as I resented her for so long I had to admit she was terrific in some of the roles she portrayed on the screen. She was when she was young a spoiled, entitled and clueless idiot who didn’t know jack about the lives of regular folks, much less that of those who served in the military. She could have and should have made a real, concerted effort to do so if she wanted to use her fame to be an anti-war activist. But she was just sooooo effing sure of herself and hungry to use her celebrity status she did a lot of harm. Over time she’d come to realize that. If she didn’t make a HUGE deal about saying so, apologizing she did acknowledge what she said and did was wrong and hurt countless people. Still, she also knew that there were those who would never, ever forgive her and that making a big public spectacle about what she did and apologizing would rub a lot of salt in a lot of wounds.
I was too young to have wound up in Vietnam but I knew plenty of people who did. And I even knew people who came home in metal boxes so I was in no mood to forgive Ms. Fonda. I still have mixed feelings about her. But with time, she did develop an understanding of how she was when she was young, and the hurt and harm she inflicted and understands the level of stupidity she had to allow herself to be exploited. That there was no excuse for it all. I can’t get completely past what she did during Vietnam any more than I can some other people. The treatment of those who served during that time is shameful, even if the war we waged there was the same. At least we advanced some and more people have realized that protesting a given war should be protest against those who send others into armed conflicts, especially without a full airing of whether doing so is the last sh!tty option.
But for her in some cases and one in particular considerable misdeeds Ms. Fonda has proven to be a great actress, and a pretty fair advocate for women’s rights.
A little glaring to compare her immature sins, for which she has been dogged for more than 50 years, to the teenage sins of Kyle Rittenhouse & the dozens of other teens who have taken weapons of war into our schools & streets. I’ll take a little privileged naivette any time.
In World War 2 the number of days, on average, the solider saw combat in a year was 10 days. In Vietnam it was 240 days in a year. In world War 2 the enemy was dressed as the enemy, and once territory was gained, it was defended and kept. In Vietnam, they would take a hill, lose many men, then turn around and abandon it. The enemy was everywhere and nowhere, as it was never clear. In WW2 the men returned as heroes. The soliders returning from Nam were seen as baby killers. The problem with wars started by lies, like the gulf of Tonkin crap, is the politicians don’t pay…the soliders, sailors, and airmen do, and the people safe at home sit in judgement on things they know nothing about. No wonder so many vets crash and burn once home, done in by the people sitting in safety. Times have changed, but I remember traveling in my uniform in the late 70s, and getting looks like I was a leper. It pissed me off then, and it pisses me off even more now that nazis sit in our government, and a third of these mutherfuckers here live in peace, paid for by blood, when they support nazis, who filled Arlington national cemetery and also Normandy with the graves of BOYS. Jane was, and is a child of privilege. You could put what she knows about some poor working class kid, drafted into Nam, into a thimble and still have room for your thumb.
The average age of a combat solider in WWII was 26. In Vietnam it was 19.
I remember a time when MTV, MUSIC TV actually played videos of music/songs. I first saw that attached video there. Saigon fell just before I graduated from high school but by the time I was a Junior I knew I and my friends wouldn’t wind up in Vietnam after we graduated as we’d pretty much turned over the fighting to the Vietnamese. With sadly predictable results as they had the same corrupt and incompetent commanders taking over that had proven unreliable leaders years earlier. The whole thing was a waste. I knew people who went, and knew people who came home in steel coffins. i knew people who managed to avoid going, including wrangling the “Golden Ticket” of a slot in the National Guard or Reserves. I recall a few parties, celebrations for those who got into the National Guard unit over in Carbondale. Younger generations don’t know or understand this fact as Bush 41 decided early on that Guard and Reserve Units would be deployed to the Gulf to fight in Desert Storm – the first Gulf War. But during Vietnam Westmoreland devised a PR strategy of plucking out individuals intead of having communtities seeing a large number of guys from them head over there. Unless someone was a pilot and in particular a fighter jock who begged to go, Guard/Reserves were guaranteed never to be sent to that godforsaken war.
Anyway, I also recall the dismissive attitude if not outright contempt most WWI there were a few back home, WWII and Korean vets had toward those who fought in Vietnam. If some event was being held at the VFW or American Legion Halls the segregation of Vietnam vets and the older guys was easy to spot.
Given that, and having dealt with some of that post Vietnam hangover due to when I decided to become a Marine when I saw this video it stunned me. I wish my dad had lived long enough to show it to him. (He died in 1980) There was no internet back then so most of his generation never saw it either. They should have. But MTV wasn’t a channel that would be on in any VFW or American Legion bar’s TV so this video had a short life and wasn’t widely seen. It’s a shame because for the older veterans it might have made them view Vietnam veterans differently, and generated support from them for those who unlike the forgotten veterans of Korea got harsh treatment even from most fellow veterans.