This is some interesting ideology coming out of the Republican party these days. Pollsters are evil and polls are wrong — which you could have figured out. And the economy is coming back and that resonates and Trump keeps saying that if you’d just stop testing for COVID-19 nobody would think about it anymore, and oh yeah, soon pigs will fly and if you just give them tubes of lipstick, they’ll flock to the polls to vote for Donald Trump. Oink oink. Either these people are crazy or I am. Politico:
At the center of the disconnect between Trump loyalists’ assessment of the state of the race and the one based on public opinion polls is a distrust of polling itself. Republicans see an industry that maliciously oversamples Democrats or under-samples the white, non-college educated voters who are most likely to support Trump. They say it is hard to know who likely voters are this far from the election.And like many Democrats, they suspect Trump supporters disproportionately hang up on pollsters, under-counting his level of support.
Ted Lovdahl, chairman of the Republican Party in Minnesota’s 8th Congressional District, said he has friends who will tell pollsters “just exactly the opposite of what they feel.”
When he asked one of them why, his friend told him, “I don’t like some of their questions. It’s none of their business what I do.”
This is good. The Trump cult is growing by leaps and bounds, you see, and they’re deliberately keeping it a secret from pollsters, because — just because. And they’re doing a stellar job of it, because yet another poll came out today, backing up the CNN poll that so incensed Trump last week and that caused his lawyers to send a cease and desist letter.
The Trump campaign said that CNN poll showing Biden with a 14-point lead was bunk.
Now we have a new poll showing Biden with a 12-point lead.
It comes from none other than pollster Scott Rasmussen … for John Solomon's website.https://t.co/shQF9ZB9Dy
— Aaron Blake (@AaronBlake) June 15, 2020
And what about unemployment, COVID-19, the protests all of that? That’s all good, we are informed. What’s bad is good. The worse things get for Trump, the better his reelection prospects are.
Interviews with more than 50 state, district and county Republican Party chairs depict a version of the electoral landscape that is no worse for Trump than six months ago — and possibly even slightly better. According to this view, the coronavirus is on its way out and the economy is coming back. Polls are unreliable, Joe Biden is too frail to last, and the media still doesn’t get it.
“The more bad things happen in the country, it just solidifies support for Trump,” said Phillip Stephens, GOP chairman in Robeson County, N.C., one of several rural counties in that swing state that shifted from supporting Barack Obama in 2012 to Trump in 2016. “We’re calling him ‘Teflon Trump.’ Nothing’s going to stick, because if anything, it’s getting more exciting than it was in 2016.”
This year, Stephens said, “We’re thinking landslide.”
They’re thinking landslide, when in 2016 if they hadn’t had the Russian bots and Facebook, they wouldn’t have gotten the 77,000 votes in three states. Plus, they’re not the opposition party this year, they’re the incumbent and so the trick there — the tradition, at least — is to say how great things are and don’t you want more of it, specifically four more years? Americans don’t want four more hours of coronavirus, unemployment, or protests, if they could avoid it.
As I’ve always said, political prognostication is a dark art. I’ve seen a lot of political theater and right now this is playing out as fantasy coupled with farce, think Peter Pan on acid, riding an elephant. Let’s see where this messaging goes.
Welp, clearly you aren’t crazy so that means they are if they really believe this nonsense sprinkled with fairy dust. I think what happened in 2016 so gob-smacked us that for a long time we were shell-shocked, but now? We’ve taken ourselves in hand and realize this guy’s win in 2016 was a hideous confluence of all that could go right for him and all that could go wrong for Clinton and this time around, we ain’t, none of us, having it again.
About goddamn time we got to that point, Carroll. I have been arguably rather obnoxious about how too many on our side let 2016’s trauma warp their thinking. But watching Trump fall apart in real time is doing a lot to break those illusions.
What I find stunning is that there is no admission on these peoples’ parts that now they’re the incumbent and that’s a different ballgame. They still think it’s 2016, and they think Biden is the same as Hillary and it ain’t so.
Those are the kind of illusions you hold close when you’re losing, Ursula. Thinking of all those pointless rallies Trump held for the last three years now, it strikes me that it was a preview for what we’re seeing: a nostalgia trip on par with bragging about that TD you scored 20 years after high school.
Jeez, how stupid they are.
Not stupid per se, Cmae. Desperate if True Believer and calculatedly greedy if grifter is closer to the mark. They feel the end coming too but they dare not say so aloud.
Stupid as long as they’re denying reality – like thinking the virus will disappear if we stop testing for it.
The Trump cult isn’t growing, Ursula. It’s consolidating, both among the True Believers and grifters alike. The latter will extract all the cash they can from now until November (hope they got paid in advance). The former will never know what hit them.
I’m going to give you a stock tip.
Nov. 1st.
By Samsung and Walmart.
There are going to be a lot of remotes going through the TV when Fuc Newz has to tell these idiots.
Rump got roasted.
It’s a rout.