Meghan McCain made an unceremonious return to The View by declaring that gun owners would “resort to violence” if their gun rights were to be restricted (nothing like “good guys with guns, huh?). This is terrifying, brought to us by RawStory from The View:
“The AR-15 is by far the most popular gun in America, by far,” McCain told her co-hosts. “I was just in middle-of-nowhere Wyoming, (and) if you’re talking about taking people’s guns from them, there’s going to be a lot of violence.”
Ironically, the type of people who resort to violence if angry about the law are precisely the same people who should not own firearms. What happened to needing a gun to protect one’s family? I guess they believe guns may properly used to protect one’s own view of what the law should be.
I was not the only one who saw the insane juxtaposition of such a claim:
So your saying “responsible” law abiding gun owners would turn to violence and disobey a law???
— Matthew Dowd (@matthewjdowd) September 4, 2019
Yes, that appears to be exactly what she is saying. So, a “good guy with a gun” is only a “good guy” so long as he’s happy with the laws. There is a word for that type of guy, but it’s escaping me … criminal seems to be close.
Were that our only problem.
McCain’s husband, some nut named Ben Domenech, also believes he sits above both Congress and the Supreme Court, in determining the exact meaning of the Bill of Rights, especially the rights imbued by the Second Amendment.
“Yes, you fake conservative dipsh*t, people tend to fight back when you disrespect the Bill of Rights and try to illegally take their guns,” Domenech tweeted. “The Black Panthers did it in California when Reagan tried. We would do it too.”
See?
Even if Congress passed a law, even if the president signed the law, and even if the Supreme Court upheld the law, Meghan McCain’s non-fake, non-dipshit, husband has already determined it would, regardless, be “illegal” and he would be within his rights to fight using those same guns.
I have no idea what the Black Panthers have to do with anything, other to invoke black people in a struggle.
On this, be clear. When it comes to guns, these people do not believe any law could apply to them. They will not recognize the law, no matter how valid. They have given unto themselves their own “right” and will not be giving it up to any government. With respect to guns, they are above the government, above the very idea of democracy. This is the end-result of a gun industry campaign to equate guns to “freedom.” These people will shoot, and kill – according to McCain and husband – if “we the people” determine we want the laws changed.
There is a word for people who invoke terror in the name of their personal belief, threatening violence against those who disagree. We call them terrorists. And make no mistake, these terrorists base their beliefs in large part because of their race. How long do you think a group of young black men would last “open carrying” their AR-15s to a “Black Power” rally. How long do you think the Meghan McCain’s of the world would tolerate these same young black men stating that they WILL resort to violence before giving up their “2nd Amendment rights”? Texas is open carry. Do you think Texas would support eight young black men “open carrying” their AR-15 into a public square holding a Trump rally?
No. This is about “certain people’s” rights. Not everyone’s.
This nation is sick, and I don’t see it getting better. The fact that fellow citizens get gunned down routinely, first graders at school, to high schools, colleges, malls, concerts and night clubs, means nothing to them. They need their gun, damnit, to defend themselves from … law breakers? Different lawbreakers than them, we presume.
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Peace, y’all. Strength without AR-15s
Jason
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Unlike the murders already taking place? The view really needs her “conservative voice.” ???
Gods, what a clueless nitwit! People used to give Chelsea Clinton a lot of grief for nepotism but Megan McCain makes her look like Joan of Arc by comparison. Also, I wonder how far these ammosexuals are willing to go. It’s one thing to mow down unarmed civilians or underarmed cops. But it’s another to face off against, say, a full platoon of the United States Army. In terms of raw firepower alone, I expect those cowards to last all of 1.3 seconds against the latter.
The gun nuts are making a grave mistake here. However much the American people may distrust their government (especially right now), all the shootings and rhetoric from the 2nd Amendment morons is making them look like the bigger threat. That’s when it stops being fun and starts getting ugly.
Ammosexuals! Fantastic!
Can’t claim the credit for it…first heard it on Dailykos and loved it so much I’ve been using it since.
Yeah, it’s an oldie but a goodie
Love it! I just used ‘gun fad’, but this is far better.
These gun nuts you refer to, would piss themselves and run like hell if they even saw any police or soldiers. Female kitties all of them.
Yeah, talkers are rarely doers, Wolf. It’s one of many reasons I’ve got contempt for that crowd.
Ruby Ridge comes to mind (Waco, TX takes a close second). Don’t think the US Army got involved but there was some pretty good sharpshooting by the government side (FBI, local sheriffs, state police, etc). My question is how will “the Federal government under orange one respond if such an insurrection evolves. If there are conflicting orders from the executive and the legislative branch in the event of an armed (lets be honest and name it “The Second Civil War”) whose side will the state and federal military take? Hmmmmmmmm…
You’re assuming that Mr. Tangerine Man would care. That’s a very dangerous assumption if you’re an ally he thinks is making him look bad.
Good Point! Don’t care how Mr Tangerine reacts. More interested in how the various military forces at all levels react.
The only reason for ARs (and AKs) is to kill as many people as possible in as short a time as possible. They’re not good for anything else.
You get just as much protection from a shotgun, and you can use it for hunting too.
And yeah, we had long guns in the house. (To be accurate: pre-Civil War black-powder Kentucky rifles.) Later on my father collected a few antique rifles, and he inherited a horse pistol (legally a sawed-off shotgun, and he registered it).
I actually read a study that showed that people truly interested in securing their home for protection could not do better than a big dog behind the door or on the front porch going “Woof!” really loudly. If someone is considering robbing a house or doing something violent, they will generally pick the place where they don’t have to go through the big guy that isn’t happy you are there and already noticed your car slowed down!! Plus, silence is the key for these people. Having a giant dog letting everyone know someone is out there is the last thing they want. Last, as all police know, a dog is the only weapon ever that cannot be turned on the person using it.
Of course, it doesn’t fill that “man card” that some people feel so empowered by in holding a gun.
There is some merit to that but also drawbacks. Dogs that bark loudly at little provocation can be a bother if not downright annoying and even cause complaints from neighbors. Hell, my cocker spaniel Corky had such a booming bark that when we’d get to the door a food delivery guy was often backed up ten feet from the door by the time we opened it! Still, a guard dog can be good especially for those who don’t have young children or would have them visiting.
IF one were to feel a need for a firearm for self defense a pistol isn’t something I’d recommend unless one is either well traind already (and willing to keep practicing) or ready to spend a major amount of time & effort to master. The best option is a pump action shotgun with the shortest barrel allowed by law and the plug removed from the magazine allowing it to hold eight or in some cases nine shells – not filled with “double aught” buckshot either but with a regular #6 or if steel shot #4 hunting load which reduces risks to someone in an adjacent room in modern homes with drywall contruction. At short range of any distance inside even a large room like a living room or master bedroom it will drop anyone. More importantly, if you wake up in the middle of the night & realize there’s someone moving about in your home & have time to actually access the shotgun racking the slide is probably enough to get them the hell out of their. The sound will carry in a quiet home in the middle of the night and ANY bad guy knows what it means & that if they didn’t make it they are in deep shit. Also, should it be one of your teenagers trying to sneak in or a drunken spouse the reaction is most likely going to be a high-pitched scream of “it’s me!” in a voice you’ll recognize.
I no longer live in the boonies and see no need for any guns in my home. Since my disabiliy hunting, at least in the manner where I could truly get out and immerse myself in nature isn’t an option anymore so I don’t have any need for even a shotgun or hunting rifle. I live in an apartment building in a very nice suburb (I get a rent subsidy) with key card access to the building. Besides, I can’t afford either range time or ammo anymore so I wouldn’t be able to maintain my proficiency. Great as it once was it’s a quite perishable skill. I feel quite safe. If I were to move back to a rural setting I might feel differently but that’s unlikely so I doubt I’ll ever own a firearm again.
In the home, in the middle of the night, a handgun loaded with hollow points is a better option than a shotgun, you don’t yell time out to ‘rack the slide’ or load a shell. And shotguns with a high capacity magazine? why? A short barrel shotgun? really?extreme, maybe?
The big dog with Woof! is the best option. Period.
My parents lived way out in the country and had cats, so “big dog” wasn’t happening. But anyone coming to the front door was a stranger; friends all knew about the back door and (if the garage was open) that door. (They kept an unloaded shotgun near the front door. Never needed it, AFAIK, and the doors were foam-filled steel.)
And with a full choke, and some No.9 birdshot, you can clean up at the turkey shoot too! (NO, IT’S NOT TURKEYS, WE SHOOT TARGETS!)
Meghan McCain, has always shown a dominating style on the view, she does not have the Stirling open style of Whoopy, or the I think this, but understand there are other ideas to be considered, and will discuss, not preach, dictate or raise my voice, like Sunny is reasonably calm most of the time until reality becomes challenged in relation to laws … or the rights of children are overlooked …
There have been some single minded, stubborn panelists on the view, they soon become annoying and less entertaining, Meghan is fast approaching that level on this subject alone … this one reveals the vile position of the NRA, which she claimed to be a member way back when and made me cautious of her inputs …
The over-bearing statement made by everyone in the NRA is the government is NOT going to take my guns away, so don’t touch my weapons of enormous power so I can kill 30 people in less than 30 seconds, because the terrorists are going to attack my household in waves of hundreds at a time … I’ll kill them all, there will be a river of blood flowing around our house … this gun is so effective at killing people, (that is the very reason these guns are made the way they are, lighter than the old standard ones so the soldiers could carry more ammo into the field to kill even more people with a lighter weapon) … the best part, their bullets carry their killing power far enough away, you don’t even have to see the faces of those people you are killing, you don’t need to know whether they are white or POC, young/old, female/male … most of the huge opening wounds caused by these bullets will be less visible, because the majority blow bone fragments, liquid flesh and blood out the rear side, but of course the exploding head shots will tough to ignore, think of a small watermelon dropped from a fourth story window and what it does when it hits the ground …
Another thing, you don’t even have to see whether they are armed or not, you can just assume every one that moves out there somehow needs to be killed, because you have the power and it means YOU get to decide the live-or-die moment for hundreds of people to keep that river of blood running in your yard … no matter, women and children OR terrorist men ALL ARE YOUR TARGETS, so be prepared, have a couple thousand bullets on hand, oh yes, get another AR-15 while you can, in case, after killing the first, 100, the first gun heats up and jams, you can pick up the other one with the big capacity magazine on it, so you can easily pick off the next wave of terrorists coming into your yard … the mind scorched NRA member needs professional help to cancel, what they think is a normal situation …
A question for Meghan, if there was a large enough group of terrorists set to attack her house in the hundreds count, how would they get into her yard without drawing the attention of law enforcement/police/military units?
Do you believe that our intelligence people are not listening to web-based conversations and arrangements for a singular attack on her house?
Personally, I believe normal hunting guns/shotguns could protect a home location in a standoff and the militarized police, (armored vehicles are coming in from Military surplus) could rescue homeowners ….
He’ll with using guns to protect family! They use their guns to protect their guns! Guns are God’s.
Spell checker got me.
Hell, not He’ll.
Well written and well said sir.
Watched it and went ballistic! We own a couple shotguns and pistols. Inheritance and have not been shot. No one’s coming for those guns. MM and her bubbly hubby are NRA members (per her.) Bringing up the Black Panthers – god forbid black folks get more AK’s and AR’s. If that happens – whoooeeey you’re gonna see super gun reform. His comment is beyond racist. MM spouts RW propaganda. At least Abby reminded her about Sandy Hook. NO ONE IS COMING FOR THEIR PHUCKING GUNS. Just the AR’s and AK’s because the only one’s who should have automatic weapons are military and Swat (a la El Paso.)
Swat tends to like shotguns. Nothing like the sound of one being racked to make people have second thoughts.
Eh? If a swat team is coming for you, me, or anyone else, their shotgun, rifle, assault weapon, etc. WILL NOT be ‘racked’ ‘locked’ it will not need to be cocked, and/or loaded, it will most certainly be ready to fire. Swat, tends (not likes) to use military grade weapons as in the AR-15.
Funny that McCain’s husband would invoke Reagan’s gun control. Especially since he got it all ass-backwards (like right-wingers tend to do).
Reagan decided that guns HAD to be controlled BECAUSE a group of Black Panthers had been conducting armed patrols of Oakland (mainly while “copwatching”) and then they took to marching on Sacramento to protest a bill designed (by a Republican, of course–in fairness, though, some Democratic lawmakers cosponsored the bill) to stop the patrols.
Per the Wiki article on the Mulford Act (the name of the bill), Reagan made the following comments regarding the situation: There was “no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons” and that he felt guns to be a “ridiculous way to solve problems that have to be solved among people of good will.” He would later say that the Act “would work no hardship on the honest citizen.”
Just imagine what Wayne LaPierre would say and do if a politician made such statements while pressing for more gun control. Oh, wait. We don’t have to imagine. We KNOW what he would say and do.