Today’s development in the Carroll v. Trump case, currently up on appeal, could have some real and lasting reverberations for a lot of cases involving the former occupant of the White House. E. Jean Carroll was victorious in her suit in a civil rape case against Donald Trump earlier this month. For his part, rather than stay silent after the verdict was read, as anybody prudent would have done, Trump jumped on the airwaves and on his social media outlet with the usual diatribe of “liar” “made up” “fake news” and his entire limited lexicon of put downs. Therefore, today Carroll amended her suit to ask for a change in the award of damages in consideration of defamatory comments which Trump made about Carroll after the verdict was rendered. New York Times:

The court filing on Monday argues Mr. Trump’s defamatory statements following the May 9 verdict “show the depth of his malice toward Carroll, since it is hard to imagine defamatory conduct that could possibly be more motivated by hatred, ill will or spite.”

“This conduct supports a very substantial punitive damages award in Carroll’s favor both to punish Trump, to deter him from engaging in further defamation, and to deter others from doing the same,” the filing says.

Ms. Carroll’s lawyer, Ms. Kaplan, said in a brief interview Monday that Mr. Trump’s statements on CNN — “literally the day after the verdict” — made it all the more important for Ms. Carroll to pursue the pending defamation lawsuit.

“It makes a mockery of the jury verdict and our justice system if he can just keep on repeating the same defamatory statements over and over again,” Ms. Kaplan said.

She declined to comment on the reference in her letter to Mr. Trump’s threat of a lawsuit against Ms. Carroll.

Trump is always threatening to sue people and he frequently does sue a lot of people. Just this past weekend his Trump Media company sued the Washington Post for over $3 billion. Let’s see how well that goes for him. Trump is litigious. He loves to sue people. That tendency on his part may become tempered if this new action by E. Jean Carroll shows him that he needs to curb his tongue. It’s doubtful, but it is possible. And simply, Carroll’s additional actions may empower other people to seek the same remedies against Trump under similar circumstances.

The plot thickens. And as of today, Trump appears to be the shoo in favorite for the 2024 GOP nomination. I would say “God help them,” but no, they deserve whatever they get. They should have cut Trump loose long ago.

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  1. I’m not a lawyer, much less a member of the Bar in NY State but I’m glad the law there apparently allows such a motion to be considered. At the same time I have a question that hopefully someone here can answer: Would this motion to amend the judgement have been possible if Trump had decided to NOT appeal? People have a certain time frame to file a notice of appeal and then actually submit it. If I’m not mistaken (I read a bit about this after the verdict) Trump had ten days to file notice of intent to appeal and a bit longer to actually file the appeal. And we are well outside that window now.

    As you say what he SHOULD have done is if not completely STFU about Carroll at least limited his comments to the process being soooooooo unfair and how no one has been persecuted like him, the jury in NYC was biased against him and he could only have gotten a fair trial in some blood red MAGA town like that town outside where Hitler’s infamous Eagle’s Nest was and where one couldn’t live unless they were official Nazi Party members. That kind of crap. But, in the words of the late John Belushi on SNL “But Nooooooooooo!” As you said Trump had to open his suck and shoot off the same male bovine excrement that got him a five million dollar judgement in the first place.

    I for one would find it not just funny as hell but deliciously ironic if Trump had for once not done what we all knew he’d do which is what he’s always done when he’s lost in court – appeal his loss and have his following his standard practice winds up costing him YUGE!

    • I may be wrong, but I believe Drumpf’s shooting his mouth off at the “town hall” and on his social media outlet, doubling down on his defamatory behavior, is specifically what enabled and triggered Ms. Carroll’s action. Had he STFU, the appeal would have proceeded to what we believe would have been its logical end, and Numbnuts would only have been out $5 million 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

      • I’d much rather use the kinds of words I’d use during my jarhead days (ok, most of my life!) but ursula asked us all to clean up the language on this site because apparently the algorithms used by our web host get their feelings all butt-hurt if they see to many what humorist Dave Barry liked to call “extremely very bad words.” It doesn’t shut down the site or anything but no sense is getting the web host’s and advetiser’s issuing Susan Collins type “Very Concerned” statements. I prefer to be blunt but if I can find a way to make it a little funny that’s cool.

    • Just for fun – unless cattle are transsexual, the excrement would be ‘taurine’ and not ‘bovine’

      I need to overcome four years of Latin being forced into me LOL

  2. We all realize that the reason Mr Maggot is running isn’t to serve human beings but to pursue the legal immunity that a successful campaign for public office delivers. Key word here is “successful.” Once he’s indicted for seditious conspiracy, his campaign is over.


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