In a move commentators strongly suggest relates to Trump’s efforts to overturn the result of the 2020 election, Special Counsel Jack Smith has subpoenaed the testimony of former Vice President Mike Pence.

The former Veep must be in serious discussions with mother as to how he will respond.

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“I think what this suggests to me is that Jack Smith is looking at the campaign to pressure Mike Pence to overturn the election in the United States Senate when there is a counting of the electoral votes,” explained (former prosecutor RenatoMariotti. “I think, you know, that is the one piece of information that only Mike Pence can talk about. He had phone calls with former President Trump where he was allegedly pressured to essentially stop the counting of the electoral votes in or send the matter back to the states, and there were repeated conversations with him. And I have to believe that that is why Jack Smith wants to speak with him.

Former acting solicitor general Neal Katyal estimated that it’s about a six or seven on a seriousness scale of 1 to 10. He added a margin of error of plus or minutes two“

All deference to Neal Katyal, but I think in terms of discomfort to Pence and drumpf this is gonna rate a 10+ on the sweat scale.

There are almost certainly conversations between those two that only Pence can corroborate. And as Pence has further political aspirations, how he responds to the subpoena will have major reverberations.

“My guess is Pence did what he’s been doing for the last two years, talk out of both sides of his mouth,” slammed Katyal. “You know, send his aides to say some things but not say much himself and Jack Smith called his bluff and said, you know, we need to get to the bottom of this. Thank heavens for Jack Smith. I thought it was unforgivable that the Jan. 6th committee, which did such a great job, but just let Pence skate and just had testimony from his aides. Pence is kind of like the Forrest Gump in this situation. He’s kind of everywhere, yet we’ve not heard from him. So, I’m glad law enforcement is hearing from him finally.”

Here is the discussion with Ari on YouTube:

This should get interesting.

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  1. So if they are talking to Pence, that must mean they have talked to everyone below him and the only one above him is the Mango Messiah. This gives me hope they are close to indictment. But I also think they would drop indictments against Stone, Bannon, Eastman, et al, before indicting TFG. I’d also like to see some law enforcement action against the Kremers and Ginni Thomas – they provided the transportation for the rioters.

  2. He would have had to subpoena most of them before they would appear, I think, and surely there would be some reporting on that. But I don’t know. That is why I just reported what is out there.


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