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Since the first time that Donald J Trump, Pestquire blustered and clanked his way down that schlock gilt escalator in Trump Tower, to the adoring applause of paid shills, it’s been like the guy in that hotel chain commercial with the deep voice, “How low can you go?” The reference of course being to the “floor,” or lowest limit of his popularity. As far as I’m concerned, that debate is now settled.

Trump’s ceiling has been well known for quite a while, it’s 46%. That’s the national percentage of the vote that he received was on election night of 2016, and you’d have a difficult, almost impossible time of finding a respectable poll, either before or after the election that shows him above that mark. To my knowledge, Trump is the first president in the history of polling to have never obtained a 50% popularity or approval rating, not even in the normal halcyon days of his post inauguration “honeymoon cruise.”

But “how low can Trump go?” That has never been conclusively proven. Most polling post election tend to show a rather narrow band of a 44% average in most respectable polls, to an extreme low of 38% in one possibly outlier poll during a particularly rough patch. But those are popularity, or job approval polls, and those are questions about whether or not you like a person or their performance. Those can be affected by anything from the stock market to the fact that your brother-in-law likes Trump, and you’re pissed at your brother-in-law right now.

Much more indicative of the seriousness of intent are polls based on whom you would vote for in a future election. And based on that kind of polling criteria, as far as I’m concerned, Trump’ floor of support is a truly pathetic 42%. Here’s how I tie this one up, with a pretty pink bow on top of it.

In the last couple of months, the well respected Quinnipiac University has released two spaced out polls, each pitting Trump in hypothetical “head-to-head: polls against the top Democratic contenders. In both polls, Trump received an identical 42% share of the vote against almost every opposing candidate. The only exceptions were a 43-42 lead against Pete Buttigieg in the previous poll, and a 53-40% trouncing to Joe Biden in the current poll. That means that over two separate polls, from candidate ranging from Warren to Sanders, from Buttigieg to Booker, Trump gets an identical 42% support percentage. And just to put it in some context, a couple of these candidates, namely Booker and Harris, are running in single freakin’ digits in current Democratic primary polls!

The point is this. You flat out can’t win with 42% support. Hell, the only way that Trump won in 2016 is because he ran against a flawed enough candidate to drag her down to his own level of unpopularity, or even just below. And that is highly unlikely to happen this time. The simple fact that when presented with a binary choice between two names, 6 different Democratic candidates are all beating Trump outside of the margin of error for the poll, indicates that whomever emerges from the Democratic primary mosh pit, they will have the support of the majority of voting Americans.

The caveat here is that these are national polls, and we all saw what happened in 2016. But the fact of the matter is that this is a specious argument. In fact, the final major national polls in 2016 were almost dead spot on. Most polls showed Clinton winning by 2-2.5%, and in fact she won by 3 million votes, almost 2.5%. Trump won in the electoral college, by squeaking out three critical votes by a grand total of 77,000 votes. And in all three of those states, WI, MI, and PA, “head-to-head_ polls show Trump losing to multiple Democratic candidates, many outside of the margin of error.

Look, it ain’t over until the rather obese human of the female gender warbles an aria, but let’s not go overboard on all of this “specter of 2016” shit either. Trump got 46% of the vote in 2016, including a critical margin of disaffected Democratic Obama voters and independents. Reporting seemed to indicate that a significant number of them were fleeing Trump after it became clear what an obnoxious barbarian he was, but how many? As far as I’m concerned, we now know, 4%. That’s the difference between Trump’s vote tally in 2016, and what appears to be his hard core “base” of 42%. And it shouldn’t be anywhere near enough. So, let’s put the pedal to the metal, and git ‘er done.

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1 COMMENT

  1. I’m with you, Murf, the gritty stomp of our voting shoes should land with precision and a LOT of force …

    We cannot be complacent for even a moment measured in nanoseconds, there are external dangers as well, the Putin juggernaut of hackers may generate bogus voting numbers, the smuck factor of Trump varies slightly, but with his slipping mental problems, I wonder if before the actual voting period arrives he won’t have pushed the button on some very bad action against our Nation … making him super dangerous or perp-walked out the door at the WH … the House committees are still revving up to punch Trump down … the Barr factor seems to be going bad for Barr and his grip on the Mueller Report is slipping a little, maybe enough to go to criminal charge levels soon, (there’s still hope), and there still is a LONG way to go until we get to use our own mighty pens to boot the creeps out …

    What do you think the outcome would be if we see the, “25”, feature of the Constitution enforced? It could push a lot of the voting block around and everyone falls down from the dizzy feelings … and there would be Pence …

    • No, camplacency and a sense of entitlement is what killed us in 2016…But my brand new article, just up, is a good reason why I think complacency may not be much of an issue…

  2. This is exactly what I have been saying……those who are reluctant to impeach Dumb Quixote for fear of motivating his base don’t realize that his base IS ALREADY foam at the mouth motivated…..that being said, no one can win a two way election with 42% of the vote.

    • Thank you…I’ve been preaching that sermon from the mount for months now, including your apt “foaming at the mouth” example…People keep getting lost in the weeds, and don’t realize that there flat out aren’t anough of the squirrely little fuckers around for a rerun of 2016…

    • Yeah, but let’s not forget something about that number: There’s quite likely a reasonable number of “unmotivated” folks who would find impeachment to be “unacceptable”–if not outright looking like a political “hit job.” Go back and look at the Clinton impeachment proceedings. Both houses of Congress were controlled by the GOP but the articles were delivered by an OUTGOING House (the proceedings and votes were taken in December of 1998, AFTER the GOP lost 4 seats, bringing them down to an even narrower majority, but when the hearings and vote took place, the GOP had a 20-seat majority) while the actual impeachment vote took place by an INCOMING Senate (which added 6 new members but absolutely NO switch in party strength; the GOP retained a 10-seat advantage) and the GOP had used the 1998 elections as a kind of referendum on Clinton (which largely explains why the House GOP was so ready to start impeachment while the Senate failed to convict).

      But, in the 2000 election, the GOP paid a price. While it took the White House (largely from partisan Supreme Court monkeyshines), it lost more House seats (though keeping a majority) and lost control of the Senate twice (first, in the brief pre-inaugural period and second, when Dubya insulted Sen Jim Jefford into switching from GOP to Independent).

      Another point to recall (that Murf failed to note in his slight against Hillary Clinton) was that final polling tended to emphasize a two-way race and didn’t take into account outside manipulation (read “Russian interference”) or that late decision by Comey to reopen the email investigation. Pretty much every poll taken in the week leading up to the election that featured a four-way race resulted in figures close to the actual results (of course, that still didn’t affect the Electoral results since the polls were national, rather than by state and it’s the state results that actually counted).

      • No, I don’t believe so, and here’s why…Trjmp tried e verything under the sun except having his name put on 2018 ballots running unopposed to get his people out to the polls…He invented an entire migrant caravan, with bullshit graphics from FOX to try to get them out, and the GOP lost the midters nationally bymore than double what they lost 2016 by…

  3. It is a small point, but if someone is on 46% support in a poll and their support drops to 41.4 %, they have not lost 4.6 % of their support, they have lost 10% of their support,. Out of the 460 people in 1000 who supported him before 46/460 or 1/10 have changed their support.

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