In the wake of last night’s epic indictment fest in Georgia in which 19 individuals were charged with 41 different felonies, a haul bigger than (to borrow a phrase) we have ever seen, disgraced Presidential Historian Johnathan Turley appeared on Fox News to defend indictee #1 as regards his “perfect phone call” to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger – during which he admonished Raffensperger to “find” him 11,780 votes.

Turley tries to sell the notion here that Trump was merely asking Raffensperger for a recount, which, in the case of the 2020 Georgia vote totals would have been automatically triggered has the vote margin been closer to 4500 votes rather than 11,780.

In any case there had already been two recounts of the Georgia vote, as requested by the Trump Campaign before the call, Johnathan.

Turley, if he were not so deep in the pockets of Fox News and Trump, should know this is nonsense.

Not once in the call did the word “recount” come up, and for good reason as two had already been completed and as the average state recount of votes numbers about 430 votes.

Trump damn well knew that an honest retabulation of the vote would not change the outcome, instead, alleging widespread vote fraud, machine tampering and ballot shredding, Trump was asking Raffensperger to use the power of his office to change the totals.

Here is Turley:

Aaron Rupar’s followers try to help Turley see the error of his ways:

Apparently not, Chidi.

I guess that is Turley’s job now. So sad.

Looks like.

Nope, it was not.

Yup. He knows better and still says it.

He sure does.

Pesky facts.




The only question Turley should be asking himself is when Trump is gone, by whatever blessed mechanism, where does he go to get his reputation back?

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  1. Turley knows all of it. He’s just one more of their disingenuous, cynical, bad-faith actors who spouts the same shite talking points to brain wash the rubes in to not believing the truth.

  2. I don’t know, seems to me like saying, “please recount the votes”, is an easy thing to ask. At least as easy, if not more so, than the “find me 11,780 (rather specific don’t you think) votes”. The first is a rather reasonable request, the other only sounds like an order and as such immediately sets off the red flag display in a LOT of minds.

    Committing voter fraud on any kind of scale (more than say 1000 (might be a lot less tho’) votes) is so cost prohibitive as to be not worth it even to craporations wanting those lucrative tax breaks–buying republican pols is MUCH cheaper.

    • But as we’ve seen, politicians available for sale are very low quality ones.

      They do their job so badly, exposing their corrupt bribers and their venal wants, you have to wonder if, in the end, they really get their money’s worth.

      The best antidote against the corruption from the billionaire RWNJ Federalist Society is to widely publicize their cringing policies, so we can see clearly how nakedly selfish they are. The disinfectant of sunshine always cleans miasmic messes up.

    • It wasn’t only the unreasonable (an understatement) request. If you recall, Trump also threatened Raffensperger about what would supposedly happen if he didn’t do it.
      “You know what they did and you’re not reporting it,” the president said during the call. “You know, that’s a criminal — that’s a criminal offense. And you know, you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. That’s a big risk.”

  3. That statement ostensibly from.the Trump.campaign was definitely not written by paid consultants. Even the dumbest,least experienced political hack would not use this sort of language because it makes your boss kook, to use one of Fat Boy’s own terms,deranged.. My bet is that an enraged Donnie dictated that or typed it with his tiny pudgy hamster paws,and hit send.

    He is undoubtedly stewing in his own fury that a Black woman would dare to beat like this to him. If I were Melania,I would tell him I needed to shop for appropriate clothing for the trial(s) because she must be suitably clad to play the supportive wife, and head to NY. But instead of hitting Trump Tower and designer’s boutiques, I would smile and call an Uber and dressed in jeans and a Tee shirt and a black wig,head to JFK and fly straight to some place in Europe, with Barron in tow. Because a furious malignant narcissist is quite capable of violence and she would be the nearest person to take out his wrath on after the case of ketchup hits the walls.


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