It is becoming increasingly apparent that even if Donald Trump did not rape teen girls in cooperation with Jeffrey Epstein, which is seemingly impossible given his background, but even if Donald Trump did not prey on girls, some of his absolute closest friends were all in the vicinity and have some explaining to do, which may be partly why Trump refuses to move forward with an investigation. Making matters even worse for Trump, the “friends” we are talking about are also some of the biggest sugar-daddies of the MAGA movement, none bigger than Elon Musk, now outed as at least an Epstein buddy.
As tweeted by Rep. Eric Swalwell:
🚨Trump OUTS @elonmusk as being in Epstein Files. Revenge for Elon outing Trump?
Elon, what do you know about Trump’s involvement? pic.twitter.com/YcPZhesiKp
— Rep. Eric Swalwell (@RepSwalwell) September 26, 2025
Now, some caution is warranted in jumping to conclusions. These top billionaires are essentially their own club; think of it as “Rotary – Extra Crispy!” They definitely overlap, cross paths, and feed off each other. Just because Musk had meetings with Epstein, even personal ones, does not mean that he’s a predator (though he might be). It only means that this matter is in dire need of a real investigation to determine who did rape young girls and then prosecute them.
But now we really see why Trump’s hands are tied without regard to even his own possible criminality, because the documents go even beyond Musk to implicate other top-tier donors and influencers. Per a report in Rawstory.
The disgraced financier’s estate on Friday produced to Democrats on the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform another tranche of documents, including phone message logs, copies of flight logs and manifests for aircrafts, copies of financial ledgers and Epstein’s daily schedule, which include mentions of possible contact between Jeffrey Epstein and prominent individuals like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Steve Bannon and Prince Andrew.
From what we’ve read, Prince Andrew made Epstein look neutered in comparison. It most certainly is worth investigating any other men present whenever Andrew was around. But please also notice Peter Thiel and Steve Bannon. Thiel is the Silicon Valley kingmaker, while Bannon is the MAGA mouthpiece, both nearly invaluable to Trump, so much so that one can conceive of them threatening Trump with disclosure about Trump’s own issues with Epstein if they are investigated.
It becomes a vicious circle where none of them can afford to have anyone exposed. At some point, the differences in this particular “Rotary” club would become very apparent. Epstein made a lot of money and likely played a key role in at least two countries’ intelligence committees, but Epstein essentially had one product to sell and only one: access to teen girls for rape (not sex).
Back to Rawstory:
The documents suggest Thiel and Bannon had scheduled meetings with Epstein and provided evidence that Musk had a pending trip to Epstein’s island, while Prince Andrew was listed as a passenger on Epstein’s aircraft and financial disclosures provided possible evidence of payments from Epstein to masseuses on behalf of an individual identified as “Andrew.”
“Scheduled meetings” doesn’t trigger a gut response so long as they were actual meetings in a professional office, say on a Wednesday at 10:30 a.m., and not occurring on a Friday at 8:00 p.m. at Epstein’s mansions. But the trip to Epstein Island cannot be ignored because that island seems to have had only one real purpose – confusion as to jurisdictions so as to make rape and trafficking revelations harder to prosecute. We now see that Musk was at least scheduled to go out to the island. An investigation is clearly needed.
Last from the report:
“In the third batch, the Oversight Committee received 8,544 documents responsive to the Committee’s subpoena from August,” the committee’s Democrats said in a statement.
The following was received:
- Phone Message Logs from 2002-2005, which were produced previously in litigation
- Copies of flight logs and flight manifests for aircraft, including helicopters, that Epstein owned, rented, leased, operated or used from 1990-2019
- Copies of ledgers reflecting transactions recorded as cash transactions for Epstein and business entities. These documents were previously shown to Committee staff at in camera review.
- Epstein’s daily schedules between 2010 and 2019
One more cautionary note. Epstein was an absolute monster, responsible for probably over one hundred rapes, but he also had other interests, ranging from theoretical physics, to law, economics, and even consciousness – he loved to entertain some of the world’s leading experts in many areas for broad discussions. Some of those experts, many professors, surely succumbed to the temptations offered, but we must be adults about this and recognize that many surely did not (There were countless reports of Epstein abusing girls; they came from somewhere, surely some of his “guests” reported him). And so it is simply wrong to point to someone on a schedule and scream “rapist!” because it may be someone who was repulsed and even reported Epstein.
But when a name like Musk comes out, or Bannon, or Thiel, these particular people probably need to explain themselves in an investigation. Because, for all of Epstein’s power, these are the types that actually could have saved young girls by going public, they had at least as much power as Epstein… Probably. (It is actually even possible that Epstein was so entangled with the intelligence community that many of these powerful people believed they might be killed if they made much noise, which just makes an investigation that much more critical because if our own intel community “proffited” in leaks off raping girls and threatened lives over reports, others need to go to prison, whether they ever touched a girl or not.)
It is all just so awful. But we now see that even if Trump never actually preyed on someone under 18 with Epstein or never trafficked girls (Pretend), his hands truly are tied because it is most certainly not his style to allow trouble befall his close rich friends. In the past, he’s been very clear that his sympathies go out to the predators, not the [now] women, who he has called “Democrats.”
This matter almost certainly does involve the intelligence community, and that may be the ultimate reason why it will never be thoroughly investigated by any administration. The public is expecting the powerful to essentially investigate themselves. (Think the FBI didn’t know?) If it were ever to be done, it would require Congress to assemble a special investigation, appointing professionals from outside the I.C. web to get to the bottom of it. It probably won’t happen. The poor girls, tossed aside as “fully depreciated” bodies – nothing more. Tears.
But these names, however, are now stuck, and they do nothing but reinforce why Trump calls the whole thing a “hoax” and wishes it away. Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Steve Bannon… that is getting awfully “close” to home there. It is so obvious what’s going on…
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A band of thieves has no loyalty to each other once their common interests end.
Peter Theil’s name is the one that jumps out at me. He’s been open about being gay for a long time. IF his palling around with Epstein included fulfilling his sexual desires that opens up a whole new can of worms. Epstein’s name evokes disgusting thoughts of trafficking underage girls, and passing along ones who ‘aged out’ but there’s always been a thriving market for trafficking underage boys. It might not have been Epstein’s specialty but come on – he HAD to have had connections that he could use for rich gay guys seeking victims.
I doubt ANY major news outlet would allow such a question to be posed without some serious smoke but if some schlub like me can think of the possibility a good investigative journalist like those who exposed Epstein’s trafficking of teenage girls might start doing some digging. Who knows what they’d find?
Well, yeah, when I saw Thiel’s name in the article, I was surprised/intrigued given his very open status as “gay” but then I had a thought.
Epstein’s little “hideaway” was in the Caribbean, correct? And you know what “bastion” of “American maleness” used to enjoy vacations in the Dominican Republic where he was alleged to have hired young males for “company”? Yeah. Ol’ Rushbo himself. And it is very well-known that many of the native islanders in the Caribbean have less than positive reactions towards homosexuality UNLESS money is involved. It’s not unheard of for a family to “rent out” their sons (or younger brothers) to “visitors” to play “escort”–and virtually none of them harbor any real belief that the “service” is completely above-board. The boys are expected to do whatever the visitors want them to do and NO ONE talks about what really happens.
It is a bit odd that none of the women who’ve come forward have made any reference to young boys being around but, then again, male victims of sex trafficking tend to be ignored or overlooked (not to mention the outright hostility that is directed against them when they DO dare to come forward). The girls–now women–might have seen them as nothing more than genuine servants (filling glasses, bringing towels, waiting tables, etc) rather than possible victims of sexual predation.
Denis, you are absolutely correct that where girls are being trafficked, boys cannot be far away. Those working with these populations know that predators of any sexual persuasion may be interested in either gender, and in much younger kids as well. It’s disgusting to think about and makes me want to ralph. But I’m glad you brought this up because it is part of the sex trafficking landscape and cannot be ignored.
Great reporting, Jason. Thanks for this excellent article.