We’ll all have to wait a bit longer to see exactly what the charges are (and against what defendants) in Fulton County Georgia.  Hopefully before I hit the sack tonight.  I live in the eastern time zone)  But it’s official.  Thrice indicted Donald Trump is now FOUR TIME indicted Donald Trump.  Gotten himself a pair of federal indictments, and a pair of state ones.  That’s a lot of trials, and in four different places up and down the eastern seaboard Trump is going to be in court for.  And at least some of it will be while he’s campaigning for another term in the White House.

Whew!

So how will all this play out in practice, and how will succeeding trials be affected by the one(s) before?  Now THERE’S a question to ponder.  And to speculate on.  So here’s my take.  From what I’m hearing from pundits, the GA case will be devastating for Trump in more ways than one, but some of GA law will make us happy and some won’t.  First the good news.  Georgia is one of three states where the Gov. can’t pardon/commute a sentence.  True they get to appoint the members of the Board that does but having it be a process handled by in independent board makes it less likely a convicted Donald Trump would be let off the hook.  The bad news is that given the number of people that will be charged AND that it’s almost certain to be a RICO case it’s going to take a long time to get to trial.  A looooong time, and not just because it’s Trump.  That’s just how things work there.  So I’m assuming the Fulton County trial will be last.

As for the others, it seems pretty clear that whatever chance Trump might have had to push his DC trial for his role in January 6 back is going to go first.  The prosecution wants jury selection in December and a trial starting in the first week of the new year.  Since Trump has (is anyone surprised) again proved incapable of keeping his fat mouth shut he’s given the judge ample legal grounds to accede in large measure to the prosecution’s proposed timeline.  In fact, she’s given pretty strong indications she might push things up to even sooner.  Practically speaking she can’t do so by much but I keep saying if they can get a jury picked by mid Dec. we’ll see maybe a week of actual trial.  Opening arguments and even some witnesses before everyone gets a week off for Christmas.

Next, we have Alvin Bragg up there in NYC.  He’d already indicated that if the feds needed his time slot (this was when we were talking about when judge Cannon would schedule the FL trial) he’d be okay with pushing his own trial down the road.  Well, Cannon set a May 24 trial date, not that anyone doesn’t believe she’s planning on dragging it out well past that and into the window where DOJ would shut down until after the election.  That suddenly opened up March for Trump’s DC trial.

However, as I’ve said the odds are Trump will be tried (and almost certainly convicted on at least some counts) in DC well before March.  No reason during any “verdict watch” he can’t be prepping with his lawyers to square off with Alvin Bragg.  So let’s put down March for trial (and hopefully conviction) #2.

We now move to the would be sunny state of Florida which isn’t so sunny with the orange cloud covering the place thanks to it being Trump’s home of record.  Judge Cannon, who actually DOES have the most straightforward set of charges could easily have been the first up.  But trial, even in a place where he’s got an actual shot at jury nullification (only takes one juror to hold out after all) is the last thing Trump wants.  So she did him a solid and talked like this FL business will make for the most complicated trial that has ever been seen or will be seen again and while not completely doing what Trump wanted (dismissing the case, or at least setting a date AFTER the election) pushed it as late as she thought she could get away with.  Knowing she could find excuses to keep pushing it into the fall and election season – effectively giving Trump what he wanted.  A chance to regain the WH and shut the whole thing down.

But Cannon may have already tripped herself up, and though Jack Smith hasn’t yet asked the appellate court to step in that might still happen.  Given her bungling of a recent case pressure might also mount of the Chief Judge to replace her.  Her tiny little one judge shop is out of the spotlight but only for the moment.  But it will be there again.  AND, if Trump is a convicted felon (maybe at both the federal and state level) she’s going to be hard pressed next spring to grant the delays Trump wants (expects actually) and have it hold up if Smith finally asks the appellate court to weigh in.  Given all that, while I wouldn’t call it great odds I think they are now better than even we’ll see a FL trial come next May.  And hopefully conviction #3.  All long before Georgia gets its crack at Trump.

So here’s what the lineup card Lady Justice will hand to to the legal system:

In the leadoff spot we have is Dec 23/Jan 24 for federal trial in DC.

Batting second will be state charges in NYC in March, a case which a recent judicial ruling makes it more likely Trump will in fact be convicted of a felony instead of only a misdemeanor.

Batting third will be a National Security trial (I keep saying it’s way the hell more than a “classified documents case”) in FL in May.

And after all THAT, in the “cleanup” spot we have Fulton County at a yet to be determined date in the cleanup slot.  Almost certainly with runners on base (felony convictions in as many as three states, or in baseball terms the bases filled) and what we know will be a rock solid case in Georgia.  With Trump by then already having been sentenced in at least one and maybe more cases!

Convicted felons, no matter how despicable their actions over the years get treated, at least with a first conviction as having a :clean record” which usually gets them some slack from a judge come sentencing.  However, Trump’s looking at a string of different cases in different jurisdictions and with each new conviction the weight of each will impact his sentencing with each new conviction!

Plenty to think about isn’t it?

 

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16 COMMENTS

  1. 19 individuals charged under the RICO act in a 41 count indictment, and trump named as the head of a criminal organization. 5 year mandatory sentence if convicted. Now watch the nazis in the legislative body, along with Kemp,(although he’s no guarantee), try to remove Willis. Wouldn’t surprise me but go ahead a$$holes and fire the shot that will start a firestorm.

    • I happen to believe that Kemp is harboring hopes of being the “rescue the GOP” candidate if as is likely Trump gets convicted in at least one trial before the convention. Yes, Trump and MAGA voters say nothing will stop him being the nominee but I still say just one felony conviction will cause an earthquake in MAGA world. Take another look at my theoretical timeline. Trump could very well have both federal and state felony convictions before the primaries are over. Again, I say that will doom his candidacy. Plenty of MAGAs will run over the edge of the cliff with him but more than most think will stop at the edge and say “Nope.”

      • The way Trump is running his mouth, Judge Chutkan will be able to incrementally move his trial all the way up to November. What a delight it would be if he was convicted by mid-December! What a wonderful Christmas present that would be!

        Incidentally, I have a “Tracking Trump’s Crimes” article scheduled for Tuesday morning. I’m thinking I could include in future “Tracking” updates, a table of possible trial dates with a link to your article. What do you think?

        • That’s a good idea. We’re all going to need a scorecard and with everything going on more than one pencil to keep updating it! As for linking to my article that’s awfully nice of you to consider. It will be interesting to me at least to see whether my predictions are accurate, or if not what will wind up being different. I just figured it would be fun to toss out an initial take on there now being FOUR criminal trials where Trump is a defendant on court dockets. Lots of CRIMINAL legal exposure and in four different jurisdictions AND on a wide range of charges. And prosecutors and judges jockeying for position!

    • She had never taken any case to court before she was made a federal judge. She was nothing more than a glorified law clerk. Since her appointment, she’s had a total of 14 hours hearing criminal cases, most of which were misdemeanours. That anyone so inexperienced could qualify to hold a judgeship at any level is ludicrous. That she could be given one of the most consequential cases in US history is beyond a mere judicial flaw, it undermines the very concept of justice.

    • Again, I look at it in terms of Fani Willis getting to bat cleanup with the bases loaded. Georgia’s RICO law provides a mandatory minimum of five years, although I must note it doesn’t require actual incarceration for all or for that matter any of that time. The maximum penalty is 20 years. Given the number of felony convictions will have by the time Willis steps up to the plate, Trump will be looking at prison time and not just a few months. In a state where Governor’s can’t pardon/commute sentences. There’s a Board that can but would they? I think it’s doubtful.

    • True, but it’s a civil case and Trump doesn’t have to be present in court. In fact, probably the worst thing he could do is to be there because you KNOW he’ll glare, shake his head, grab his lawyer and whisper furiously and the lawyer will have to stand up and please Trump by saying something stupid that actually damages his client’s case!

  2. 161 separate acts…she only has to succeed in proving TWO. Baby huey is named 193 times. There’s not a bottle or packet of catsup left in his pantry. I wonder if his neighbors hear screaming?

    • His name was RICO
      He was Trump’s nightmare
      With charges every where
      Trump couldn’t even style his hair…

      Is Barry Manilow still alive? He needs to remake Copacabana – a Trump version! Perhaps Randy Rainbow will do it. I’m sure he’d have us howling with his version.

  3. now with 4 trials there are a lot of moving parts. what happens with all the co conspiratores? there will be offers to plea deal. some may flip. if meadows already testified in the DC case, seems like he would do the same in Atlanta. if trump is convicted in trial one will he decide to plea in one or more of the other trials? so much to speculate on.

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