The world watched the nadir of this republic last night — at least it is my most beseeching prayer to God that this was the bottom; or the beginning of the bottom, as the last days of the Trump era play out on the world stage and disgrace all Americans living and dead. The first presidential debate of 2020 was not a debate in the definitional sense, a formal discussion in a public meeting, for the airing of opposing views. There was nothing civilized about this discussion, let alone formal.

Joe Biden, naturally, being the only adult on stage, attempted to stay aware of time constraints and to tailor his responses to the specific question asked, while the drunk at the end of the bar bullied and interrupted. Good for Biden for telling him to shut up early on — although the fact that that was necessary was a cringeworthy moment in American history. This debate, like all other presidential debates to date, will be recorded in the archives of American rhetoric, alongside FDR’s Pearl Harbor speech and Kennedy’s man to the moon speech. This is another seminal moment in our history, and one that shows our national character, the way the FDR and Kennedy speeches did, but in reverse fashion. It shows how low we have fallen from the once great nation that we were, a people who rightfully believed in its own exceptionalism, only to be hustled by a TV huckster, into giving him the keys to the mansion on the hill. The entire world marvels at our degradation and our stupidity. They wonder — as do we — is this an aberration or is this who America is?

The bully in chief didn’t intend to ever debate, because he can’t, having no policies or ideas, only canned talking points. So he came to insult and insult he did. Vanity Fair’s headline is “TRUMP INTERRUPTS JOE BIDEN TALKING ABOUT DEAD SON TO CALL THE ONE THAT’S STILL ALIVE A DEADBEAT.” Is that National Enquirer-esque enough for you? This is who we are in 2020. The Week:

“There’s nothing smart about you, Joe,” the president said in the opening minutes of the debate. “They’re going to dominate you, Joe,” he added a few minutes later, referring to the radical left, while talking over the former vice president, thereby illustrating Biden being dominated.

It took less than 20 minutes for Biden to lose his cool for the first of many times, exclaiming, “Would you shut up, man,” after Trump refused to let his opponent speak without constant interruption. Later he added, “you’re the worst president America’s ever had,” and, in exasperation, “it’s hard to get any word in with this clown.” I can’t have been the only viewer to watch the display with mounting disgust — about Trump, yes, but also about the fact that our democracy has sunk to such depths. […]

Trump was something else entirely — some kind of post-truth, street-fighting, full-spectrum bulls**t artist. Say anything. Dominate constantly. Display no warmth. No compassion. No empathy. Just fight, fight, fight. Kick everyone’s ass, including that of the moderator, Chris Wallace, who repeatedly tried and usually failed to impose order on the chaos.

Chris Wallace stank on ice. Admittedly, he was put in a difficult position, but it’s not like he doesn’t know what Donald Trump is all about.

The debate spiraled out of Wallace’s hands early on and he never regained the reins. It was a travesty and Wallace owns his share of it. The Bulwark:

Moderator Chris Wallace, who belongs to a network whose top personalities spent the day calling Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden “senile,” pathetically pleaded with Trump numerous times to let him ask questions. Wallace and Biden implored Trump, trying to put the very words into his mouth one by one, to condemn white supremacists. (He didn’t.) Trump insulted Biden’s family and called him “dumb” and a “liar”—and here I am becoming complicit in this disgusting exercise by repeating Trump’s amoeba-brain insults that a preschooler would be put into the corner for saying to a classmate.

The entire exercise was a total disgrace. The worst part of it is that no one had any good reason to expect anything else.

Of course, his usual fluffers saw Trump as an “apex predator,” and thrilled to his insults, attacks, interruptions, and constant hectoring. Hugh Hewitt did his usual contortions to see #winning.

But this felt like the last twitches of desperate sycophancy. The reality is that Trump was appalling — an insult to the institution of the presidency, the democratic process, and our intelligence. His chronic indecency almost goes without saying.

I don’t know if I even want to tune into the next one. This was an assault to the senses. It felt more like a domestic violence incident or a road rage encounter, the kind of thing that it takes a few days to fully recover from, it was that visceral and abrasive. Donald Trump, at his core, is an ugly little man, with a dwarfed intellect and an infinitesimal spirit. If you wrung out his soul like a sponge, you wouldn’t find a drop of decency in it. His depravity and his ugliness were on full display Tuesday night and now we are all the ugly Americans in the eyes of the world. I am ashamed to be an American today, a sentiment that I’ve had in varying degrees since Trump was elected, but hopefully our dignity will be restored November 3 and we can raise our heads again. It’s been said that democracy is on the ballot. It’s even more basic than that. Darkness and light are on the ballot. This isn’t a presidential election, Democrat v. Republican. This is far more primal. This is about Good v. Evil.

 

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42 Comments on "Trump Will Have To Throw Feces At Next Debate To Bottom This One"

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mae
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No way am I watching the next one, I am not putting myself through that.

Senovio Rodriguez
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Hard to disagree with that sentiment. Kinda knew that the first debate was probably gonna be a “shitshow”… but sometimes still get surprised (a bit). Sin verguenza (sic?)… no shame is one of Trump’s mantras.

Brain bleach alert:::

And no, not waiting nor hoping for Trump to hurl his Depends across the stage.

p j evans
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I followed via the live blog at the mothership, and Aaron Rupar’s twitter thread.

anastasjoy
Member

No way did I watch the first. People didn’t believe me but I really did watch an otter enrichment video from the Cleveland Museum of Natural History wildlife center — they have three adorable, sane and mature otters, far higher on the food chain than Donald Trump. I also watched a feral kitten getting a flea bath. Way more edifying than watching Trump.

Chris Whitley
Guest

Yeah I got hooked on the kitty videos. Had some bad experiences with kittens of my own. My kitty’s all got snipped at my new house. I follow a kitty thread on my news feed and YouTube has good stuff.

Tin woman1
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Yes, it was dreadful. The next one is supposed to be a townhall style one with public participation. If he doesn’t behave any better, I’d like to see all walk out on him. Turn off the cameras and lights and leave him with just his SS people.

p j evans
Member

And then at the end, the was each couple behaved – there’s clearly no love on the one side, while Joe and Jill were in that long, long hug.

Roger
Guest

This wasn’t a debate. It was a howler monkey display. Biden should have walked off the set after 5 minutes. No more please.

Scott Jackson
Guest

Romans 12:21. Do not be overcome by evil but overcome evil with good. Great article

Carol O
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I’ve seen the complaints about Wallace, but who do you think could have done a good job of wrangling tRump? There is no one that he listens to, and he doesn’t think the rules apply to him. Obviously killing the mic when it’s not his turn to speak would be ideal, but the Debate Commission and both parties have to agree to all the rules and can you see tRump’s side agreeing to that when what he did was probably part of the strategy? I don’t envy Wallace’s position, and I’m not necessarily a fan, but I have a hard… Read more »
priscianus jr
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This already suggests a solution. Biden should insist that the moderator must have control of the microphone, tRump will not agree to that, and then there won’t be any more “debates.”

Power up
Guest

What’s left.

He’s already done this.

https://youtu.be/GRxohDs2-UM

priscianus jr
Member

Right. What does he do for an encore? I don’t think we want to see that.

Steven McCrary
Guest

A vote for Joe Biden is vote to tell Trump to shut the hell up.

Daithi
Guest

It sort of proves that, with Don John, the moderator needs a microphone switch

Fred Robinson
Guest

Don’t be ashamed to be an American. Be ashamed that too many “Jerry Springer” Americans have produced a situation that would allow this kind of reprehensible behavior. White trash pumping up other white trash with too much money and not enough brains, and no decency whatever.

Rita
Member

trump is deplorable and sickening , how could any half way intelligent person like this idiot ? He’s shameful an disgusting !

Janey K Kelly
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Please spread the word about placing a first class stamp on your ballot envelope. For less than 50 cents you can insure your vote will be delivered in a timely manner. Otherwise it’s considered bulk or third rate mail. I verified it again at our local post office today.

Chris Whitley
Guest

Dammit, don’t give the moron any ideas. It’s already like walking into the monkey room.