When I was a middle school teacher, I had to take several months off for spinal surgery. The doctors literally “cut my throat” in order to go in and work on my cervical vertebrae. When I returned to school, the kids asked me about the Frankenstein scar on my neck. My answer: the doctors cut my head off, put it in a pan, worked on my spine, sewed my head back on, and sent me home. The ten or fifteen seconds of stunned bemusement before someone yelped, “No, they didn’t!” were priceless. (And yes, I am a Bad Person for lying to my students. I did fess up after they called me on it, so there’s that. Also, the scar healed beautifully. Too bad, really. I loved telling people that story.)

This is not me. Jan in the Pan is prettier than I am. Yay science!

Kids are credulous and gullible, but not stupid. Most — not all, but most — Americans are the same. It didn’t take long for people to react in horror to Trump’s bizarre exhortation to inject themselves with disinfectant. (If you’re an inveterate Trump defender who believes that bad old liberal media is lying again about The Wonder That is Donald, check the link above. There’s video and everything. Of course, you won’t believe it, but I can’t help you with that.)

Here’s what Doctor Trump advised the American people. The setup is a set of comments by someone with actual, functioning intelligence, DHS’s Bill Bryan, spoke about the virus not doing well in warm, humid temperatures. Bryan said, “The virus dies quickest in sunlight,” which triggered a series of speculations in what passes for Trump’s mind.

So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just a very powerful light — and I think you said that hasn’t been checked because of the testing. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that, too.

Why yes, Doctor Sooper Genius, I’ll shove a halogen flashlight up my ass right away. That’s do the trick. But wait, the Doctor is still in da house:

I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? As you see, it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that. Because, you see, it gets on the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it’d be interesting to check that. So that you’re going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds — it sounds interesting to me.

Absolutely, Doctor Giggles. This is an awesome idea. I’m making a cocktail of Lysol, Clorox and Scrubbing Bubbles for myself. Maybe I’ll have it for high tea. What do your fellow megaminds think?

Actually, they’re not on board. Dr. Vin Gupta warns:

This notion of injecting or ingesting any type of cleansing product into the body is irresponsible and it’s dangerous. It’s a common method that people utilize when they want to kill themselves. … Any amount of bleach or isopropyl alcohol or any kind of common household cleaner is inappropriate for ingestion even in small amounts. Small amounts are deadly.

Other doctors agree:

Former FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb says:

There’s no circumstance under which you should take a disinfectant, or inject a disinfectant for the treatment of anything and certainly not the treatment of coronavirus. … There is absolutely no circumstance in which that is appropriate and it can cause death and very adverse outcomes.

Pulmonologist Dr. John Balmes was very firm on the subject:

Inhaling chlorine bleach would be absolutely the worst thing for the lungs. The airway and lungs are not made to be exposed to even an aerosol of disinfectant. … Not even a low dilution of bleach or isopropyl alcohol is safe. It’s a totally ridiculous concept.

Lysol says don’t ingest their product: “[U]nder no circumstance should our disinfectant products be administered into the human body (through injection, ingestion or any other route).”

The EPA (we still have an EPA?) says: “Never apply the product to yourself or others. Do not ingest disinfectant products.”

Surgeon General Jerome Adams, who recently insulted every person of color on the planet, did a tap dance that kinda sorta advised Americans not to shotgun cans of Windex without actually saying so:

Joe Biden (D-Reality), who will not ask Americans to inject themselves with bleach or chug isopropyl alcohol, responded:

Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-Get Trump Outta Here Stat), who recently discussed removing Trump from office via the 25th Amendment, is concerned about Trump’s mental health. As he should be.

Dr. Frank Wu, a bacterial geneticist, reacted thusly:

And historian Kevin Kruse muses on the possibility of gaining super powers:

Of course, Trump’s new cheerleader/fluffer Kayleigh McEnany says the Bad Old Liberal Media is to blame for the uproar:

President Trump has repeatedly said that Americans should consult with medical doctors regarding coronavirus treatment, a point that he emphasized again during yesterday’s briefing. … Leave it to the media to irresponsibly take President Trump out of context and run with negative headlines.

Yes, Kayleigh. He did mention talking to your doctor first. But let’s also remember that Trump is an an anti-vaxxer who advocated that people should ingest fish tank cleanser because it contained chloroquine.

(In mid-March, Trump flatly lied to the country, saying, “We’re going to be able to make that drug available almost immediately” because it had already been approved by the FDA. It was not approved by the FDA and early studies show chloroquine and its relative, hydroxychloroquine, are ineffective against the virus and dangerous.)

He also thinks wind turbines cause cancer, thinks exercise is debilitating, and thinks a regular flu vaccine should take care of COVID-19.

And now Trump is trying to say he was baiting the press, telling reporters that he “was asking a question sarcastically to reporters like you just to see what would happen.” Sure thing, asshole.

Mark Sumner of the Daily Kos writes:

Honestly, this isn’t a stupid question … if you’re six. At some point, everyone probably makes this kind of association between “if this is good there, is it also good there?” That stage of development in which children build on concepts such as object permanence and the development of symbolic thought to engage in constructing a mental model of how the world operates usually happens around the age of seven. It’s part of why children at that age tend to be full of questions as they fill in the gaps in their model. Part of this process also involves pulling together a moral framework. So … Trump obviously missed the entire step.

Gee. We’re getting medical advice about a lethal pandemic from the most powerful person on the planet, who has the cognitive abilities of my five-year old nephew Jeffy, who thinks Elmer’s glue is a taste treat.

Probably my favorite reaction was from Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House coronavirus task force coordinator:

She sat there and watched her boss essentially giving instructions to the American people on how to commit mass suicide, and she…blinked. Blinked. Was she sending messages in Morse Code to savvy viewers? Or was her software downloading new protocols? What didn’t happen was Birx shoving his ignorant ass away from the podium, snapping into the microphone for us not to do any of that, and then resigning her position. Instead, she blinked. Trump even turned to her and asked if she ever heard of using “the heat and the light” to treat the virus. That was your chance, Birx. Your opportunity to properly inform the public. And what did she do? “Not as a treatment,” she stammered. “I mean, certainly, fever is a good thing. When you have a fever, it helps your body respond. But I’ve not seen heat or light.” A satisfied Trump concluded, “I think it’s a great thing to look at.”

No. It isn’t a “great thing to look at,” you gibbering idiot. It’s a great thing to avoid. Trump’s entire presidency has been a great thing to avoid.

The takeaway from this? Well, don’t go guzzling LimeAway or letting the guy at the tanning salon irradiate your liver. Don’t listen to anything the stupid son of a bitch says about anything, except to refute and mock him. And, gee, Mr. Pence, sir…can we consider that 25th Amendment thingamadoodle NOW?

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26 Comments on "Massive Blowback to Trump’s Suggestion to Guzzle Lysol, Irradiate Internal Organs"

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No, they are fine with mass murder.


Not mass suicide, which is why the proper response to this nonsense is “You first” as Lone Wolf put it this morning.

Ursula Faw
This entire episode has had my head spinning since yesterday afternoon. I’m seriously going to have to leave the computer and go out of the house. before my head explodes. My amusement these days consists in going to grocery stores in different neighborhoods just to see something new — hey, I found grilled artichokes for tapas on Tuesday, don’t knock it. You know what this entire batshit commentary of Trump’s reminds me of? General Jack D. Ripper in Dr. Strangelove going on about the Precious Bodily Fluids. And we’ve got Mike Pence playing the British officer, which does not bode… Read more »

This has me spinning, too. I was in naive land. I knew republicans were really bad, just not to this level. Are you guys running out of ways to express your feelings, too? I know I am. I don’t even feel like commenting half the time. How many times can I say how bonkers everything is? I am like an insect in one of those bug zappers.


I’ve always known what these people are, Cmae. Consequently, my nerve endings are very nonresponsive to the stimuli that keeps hitting you. The one silver lining I can see is that my lifelong goal of outliving these oppressors from my youth just became more likely. In the meantime, “Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald” by Gordon Lightfoot runs through my head…gales of November indeed.


Well said Black Max.


I almost wonder Trump is psychologically enacting the Jonestown playbook with that frankly bonkers advice. He knows he’s likely finished after all this is over. He knows any years he gets behind the Walls is likely a life sentence to a man his age. So why not take as many loyal rubes with him just because he can?

Then again, maybe he’s just a senile, effing idiot.


I wondered earlier why he is trying to kill his supporters.

Cherl Harrell

Thank you for the laughs. They are seriously needed, right now to save our sanity. I especially liked the clip of Dr. Frank Wu and his response. Other than that, no words.

Andrew S
Stunning! Just a mind blowing moment of absolute epic narcissistic stupidity! Then tries to blow the whole thing off by saying it was some sort of sarcastic joke on the press. How can this go unchallenged? Why are not we calling him out? If you support Trump and voted for him and plan to do so in the future think what you and your cronies would have done in Bill Clinton or Barrack Obama would have suggested any of this? It is NOT a joke. He was not NOT kidding. He is deranged at worst, senile at best. Wake up… Read more »

Sigh…I would think the last 48 hours is proof enough that America is wide awake, Andrew.


You know who gave credence to this? The New York Fucking Times. In their email newsletter yesterday they said that Trump promoted … wait for it … an “UNPROVEN TREATMENT”!!!!

I mean, every other news outlet managed to call it false, dangerous, whatever. But the NY Times managed to suggested it might have validly, but was merely “unproven.” This paper needs to fold its tent and go away. Its extreme timidity in the face of Donald Trump has made it useless.