Denial is more than a river in Egypt, it is the White House’s defense strategy in the senate impeachment trial of Donald Trump. And that figures, because they have no defense, so denying that anything is wrong, and continuing their witch hunt narrative is the only card that they can play. Pat Cipollone said, “the president did absolutely nothing wrong” and then he went on to support that statement the only way that he could, by attacking Adam Schiff. When facts are absent, the only tools left are innuendo and tangents. This is what you’re going to see the next few days, get used to it. This “trial” is one sided. The Democrats put on a case, and the Republicans are going to sling mud and hope that it looks good on television and that’s that. This isn’t about law, this is Histrionics 101. The Hill:

Cipollone began Saturday’s proceedings by reading directly from the transcript of Trump’s July 25 call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, claiming Democrats misrepresented it, including by ignoring portions that showed Trump cares about burden sharing.

The attorneys quickly showed a clip of House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-Calif) reading a parody account of the call, claiming it was “fake” – an early indication they would focus on criticizing Democrats in an effort to drive home their claim that the impeachment inquiry was motivated by partisan interests.

The use of the clip is likely to satisfy Trump. The president spent the days after Schiff made the comments calling for the congressman’s resignation and suggesting he committed treason. Even months after the September hearing, Trump continues to bring up Schiff’s comments in interviews when railing against the impeachment proceedings.

We’ve all heard the adage, “Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line,” with respect to how we feel about our candidates. Maybe that should be amended to, Democrats look at what’s real, Republicans don’t care about what’s real, they’ll go along with anything to stay in power. If that’s the case, and it certainly appears from this display Saturday morning that it is the case, then the Republican party is no longer a viable American political party, it’s a fascist cult, currently in the service of a wanna be dictator.

Look for the “defense” in the Senate to consist of Sean Hannity-level monologues, because there is no way in hell that Cipollone and Sekulow can mount a factual or legal defense. There’s a legal aphorism, “if the facts are on your side, pound the facts, if the law is on your side, pound the law, if neither are on your side, pound the table.” You saw the pound the table level of legal argumentation in the House inquiry. Look for more of the same. Obfuscation, hyperbole and showmanship are what this defense is about, particularly the last element. It’s got to look good on television.

And don’t forget what’s been lied about so far. Cipollone has already said that no Republicans were allowed in the SCIF room. Lie. Republican members of the Intelligence committee were present and they were allowed equal time to question witnesses.

Next, Sekulow came up with his “trifecta” of wrongdoing.

During the proceedings that took place before the Judiciary Committee, the president was denied the right to cross-examine witnesses, the president was denied the right to access evidence, and the president was denied the right to have counsel present at hearings. That’s a trifecta; a trifecta that violates the Constitution of the United States.

Sekulow is talking about the Sixth Amendment right, which is specifically limited to criminal prosecutions. It is inapplicable here, because the House doesn’t have the power to prosecute Trump criminally. This is an impeachment trial. The twisting of laws that Sekulow, Cipollone, Dershowitz and the ever comical Rudy Giuliani have come up with is a travesty. But be that as it may, you may recall that Trump was in fact given the opportunity to have counsel present and Cipollone wrote Jerry Nadler a letter on December 6 and told him to get screwed.

As you know, your impeachment inquiry is completely baseless and has violated basic principles of due process and fundamental fairness…House Democrats have wasted enough of America’s time with this charade. You should end this inquiry now and not waste even more time with additional hearings.

Harvard professor Laurence Tribe nailed it the other day when he said that he expected alternative facts being argued, but now he sees that there’s alternative law as well. That’s exactly what is going on. This is legal argumentation Giuliani-style, just cobble something together that sounds intriguing, declare it passionately and somebody will buy it — hopefully all the rubes will, because they don’t want to think too much. This is a brand of jurisprudence never before seen — except in the Spanish Inquisition and maybe the Twilight Zone.

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beadlady
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It’s done. The only job the defense had to do was put in doubt. They did that. Even if there are tons of questions by the senators – 45’s defense had one job to do – give the KGGOP the ability to vote it down. It’s done. I have no more hope.

Bareshark
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Respectfully, were you sure that you put your hopes in the right place? Only the most incredibly optimistic ever thought anything but acquittal was going to happen. So you change tactics. Trump may have a cosmic shield but he’ll never share it with the GOP. Ideally, you go for both Republicans AND Trump. Failing that, you take down the former.

beadlady
Member

How? I watched the investigation and the 3 days of House presentation. Proud. MSNBC today – two lawyers I respect said exactly what I posted – doubt and the defense did that. How then is 45 taken down? 2020 vote – that’s already been put into jeopardy by Moscow Mitch not putting forth any of the voter protection bills. Is that where my (and others) hope lies – in the vote? I did that in 2016 and here we are.

Bareshark
Guest

That is your fear and trauma talking. The Senate had already made up their minds when they walked in. They were never the ones that were being talked to. Trump’s team was always going to throw doubt into the picture because it’s all they ever had. And there’s plenty of private efforts safeguarding the vote that get less play but are out there (see Microsoft).

Remember, Russian protection extends (theoretically) only to Trump. The rest of the GOP are on their own here and the smarter ones should know that after the last three years. So the fight continues regardless.

beadlady
Member
Yesterday was rough on a personal level. Someone who espouses to be a Jesus believing Christian told my husband (I was also there) that he will vote for 45 again because 45 “has our back.” Having been in a cult for 15 years – I recognize brain washing when I see it. This is a college educated chiropractor. Okay, the Dems gave that presentation for anyone who would watch and listen. That guy watches Fux. It only took 77,000 to change the Electoral College. Russians have continued their attack on us and now they have the KGGOP following suit (IMO… Read more »
Bareshark
Guest
Hey, I get it. Rough days have been par the course since the inauguration. I’m a lot less convinced in any implicit virtue in Christianity having been around too many of its hypocrites. I grew up in a abusive household with an old man that was too much like Trump for comfort. Those hypocrite Christians around us did NOTHING to help and protect me or my family. We eventually had to help ourselves. And NONE of those folks, including extended family, never admitted wrong. They actively shunned us and we returned the favor. My faith was never in fools like… Read more »
beadlady
Member
I hear you. I have PTSD with 45 – raised by a narcissistic mother. Gas lighting – oh I get it. I donated to Adam Schiff last night. I have been donating to him consistently. I can do that. I think the hope was – hey world here’s the truth that we know. 45 is corrupt, a criminal and a Russian asset. Like Schiff said – 45 won’t stop and will get worse. That’s what freaks me out. There’s a fight ahead of us and when I hear that Vlad has military training white supremacist terror groups (undercover of course… Read more »
Bareshark
Guest

That militia approach strikes me as being for the afterparty of Trump’s exit. You don’t really need them when you’ve got an actual military at your beck and call, do you? Ironically, I see that as a good sign.

brakester
Member

Be brave Beadlady! We’ll need our strength for the NEXT fight.

brakester
Member

Bareshark,
Who is safeguarding the vote? Microsoft? I’d be very interested in hearing about this.

Bareshark
Guest

Not JUST Microsoft, from I understand…nearly a dozen tech companies are stepping up to do this in coordination with the FEC at reduced cost or even pro bono per the Wall Street Journal. But Microsoft has been on this since last year with the open source software development kit ElectionGuard ready to take this on. So preparations are being made without input from the GOP.

brakester
Member

Thanks bareshark,
I’ll check that out. Glad to hear someone is doing something.

Bareshark
Guest

Article ran January 23, 2020, headline “Tech Companies Volunteer To Beef Up Presidential Campaigns’ Cybersecurity”. The data on Microsoft ElectionGuard have come from both mainstream news and their own blog, earliest mention I’ve found dating back to May of last year. The SDK itself is listed on Github right now.

dana fairfield
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The consensus is the the voters gave the Democrats the House with the specific mandate to put a check on Trump. The House did their job that with a case far, far more consequential than marital misconduct. The Senate created an impeachment process wherein about four out of ten particulars are similar to the Clinton impeachment trial, and for that McConnell thinks he is entitled to claim that his Senate rules are “just like” the Clinton impeachment trial. He conveniently overlooks the fact that the overarching goal of Clinton’s GOP Senate rules were to expose Clinton to maximum public embarrassment… Read more »
p j evans
Member

We knew the fix was in before the trial started: that was OBVIOUS. What the House was going for was getting as much evidence into view as possible, for anyone watching who missed the House hearings.

mae
Member

Exactly. The presentation was not meant for the republican senators, it was meant for the American people. The senators, in their arrogance actually thought it was. Pathetic.

Concinnity
Guest

‘Doubt’ consisting of lies and false rhetoric?
The actual facts are beyond doubt. And self admitted by Trump.

Linda
Guest

Democracy is dead in America

brakester
Member

Ursula,
Schiff did an exquisite takedown on every one of those points.

Carol O
Guest
‘This is what you’re going to see the next few days, get used to it.’ Nope! Not gonna do that. I WILL NOT watch the fact-free, conspiracy-laden, BS display put on by tRump’s lackeys. I will not subject myself (or my blood pressure) to the endless lies, redirection, diversion, projections etc by these @holes. Just watching their little Faux Noise-like rants on Tuesday was more than I could tolerate. Adam Schiff gave us a great preview last night of what they will say and do. It’s all we’ve heard from that side since day one. Lies, lies, and more lies.… Read more »
Bareshark
Guest

Yeah, I’m taking the same hard pass, Carol. I’ve seen this movie already, so I’m sitting this one out.