There Are Tapes: Parnas Has Phone Messages


Well, not much of an intro to do here, per Politico which is staying on top of this:

House impeachment investigators released a new set of evidence that was obtained from Lev Parnas, an indicted former associate of President Donald Trump’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani — including voicemails, photos, and text messages between Parnas and high-level figures within Trump’s orbit.

The material includes voicemail messages Parnas received from Giuliani and Victoria Toensing, a prominent Trump-aligned lawyer, both of whom have been identified as players in an effort to force the removal of the then-U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, during the spring.

And do we have any idea yet what Parnas learned from Giuliani or Toensing?

Why yes, we do.

“Hey Lev. VT here. We’ve got a request to talk to the big one,” Toensing said in the April 23, 2019, voicemail message. “So I just wanted to get the latest from you, if I could. I know it’s late there. I’m sorry.”

The timing of the Toensing voicemail coincides with a flurry of activity involving Yovanovitch’s ouster. On April 23, Giuliani tweeted that Ukraine was investigating 2016 election interference, and Trump recalled Yovanovitch from Ukraine on April 24.

So much for Trump not knowing. “We have a request from the big one” is game, set, match on Trump claiming he didn’t know. At the absolute very least, we have irrefutable proof that Trump lied his damned ass off in the back lawn stating he didn’t know Parnas.

To be sure, these tapes do not relate to bribing Zelensky during the call, they relate to organizing the whole deal regarding dirt on Biden. The message concerns firing Yovanovitch. The evidence points to the fact that Trump fired Yovanovitch in exchange for dirt on Biden from the oligarchs. If that is true, it is an independent reason to impeach and remove Trump, rising almost to the level of the extortion of Zelensky. Trump has the power to hire and fire diplomats, unless he does so for self-gain. That is called corruption.

The tapes also prove that Trump did know what Parnas was doing over in Ukraine.

The tapes will likely get played during the trial. Tapes take evidence to another level, hearing peoples’ voices or seeing them on video has a dramatic effect on all jurors. Jurors no longer have to rely solely upon whether they believe the witness. They can see or hear for themselves. The tapes also solidify the notes and texts Parnas put forward. Republican senators are going to have one hell of a job in explaining this away. I am sure they will try, for a while. But at some point …

Hang on, because Parnas goes on Maddow soon.

UPDATE: Of course, there is a certain element of the Trump vote that could not be moved by any evidence at all. Saddest part? I think this guy is telling the absolute truth.


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7 Comments on "There Are Tapes: Parnas Has Phone Messages"

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Denis Elliott
I’m having a flashback to James Comey’s “Lordy, I hope there are tapes” comment. Just what (beyond the one you’ve cited) there might be is something that probably has a lot of people sweating tonight. Also, keep in mind that ole Rudy G. claimed to have “receipts” and waived his own phone around. Given he’s done Trump more damage than good the flaming orange rectum might not be all that inclined to issue a pardon, and being a “graduate” of SDNY himself at some point he might decide his best option is to cut his own deal. In fact I… Read more »

Jinx! That’s exactly what went through my mind, then, ‘Lordy, there ARE!’
I also can easily see Ghouliani cutting his losses and deciding he’d rather be riding in the bus than underneath.
Couldn’t happen to nicer guys….

Lil Blue Sock

The good pastor should be arrested for that jacket alone.



You mean you don’t enjoy vintage 1970’s car salesman chic? I’m shocked! 🙂

elna benoit

I was wondering how many geese have been sacrificed to slick back his hairdo.

elna benoit

Oh dear. So it turns out that if you play with fire, you might get burned? Who’d a thunk it! Lay down with dogs in the bed you made, and get up with fleas? Plot and scheme with Ukrainian mobsters and discover that the uncomfortable feeling between your shoulder blades is a knife? What a surprise.


I think he’s telling the truth too. I feel awful for MY. All I’ve heard is she is a stellar, well liked Ambassador. How embarrassing that Ukraine is investigating , but not the US.
I would much rather see her end up with a crap load of money over this. Than see another dime spent on protecting the idiot and his family. How can no one supporting him see, they are hiding his ridiculous secret service bill. I’m looking at any Trump supporters in a different light. I may end my self imposed Facebook ban.