Rudy Giuliani is in Kyiv, as we speak, for the purpose of meeting with people who allegedly have information on Burisma and Hunter Biden, for the purpose of smearing Joe Biden’s presidential campaign. Such overt subterfuge is part and parcel of the new normal in American politics since our fall down the Trump rabbit hole in 2016. To that end, a former Ukrainian member of parliament, Oleksandr Onyshchenko, who fled Ukraine after being accused of embezzlement, and who claims all kinds of insider information about Burisma and the Bidens, was arrested in Germany Friday — which is sure to put a crimp in his appearing in Rudy Giuliani’s OAN documentary.

Onyshchenko is quite the piece of work. He’s anti-Obama and and George Soros, and pro Yuriy Lutsenko and Vicktor Shokin, both of whom are known to have worked with Giuliani on his Burisma conspiracy theory. He also has accused the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv of working against Trump in the 2016 election, and claims that Paul Manafort was framed. Perfect candidate for a starring role in a Giuliani smear campaign, so sad that he’s in the House of Many Doors and unavailable. Better luck next time, Rudy. Daily Beast:

Onyshchenko’s arrest comes as efforts by Trump’s American allies to find information about Burisma Group—where former Vice President Joe Biden’s son was once a board member—have reached a fever pitch. Rudy Giuliani, Trump’s personal attorney, is currently in Kyiv, Ukraine, holding meetings on the subject. Efforts by Giuliani and other Trump administration officials to win political goodies from Ukrainian government officials—including an announcement of an investigation into Burisma—are a central focus of Democrats’ impeachment investigation of President Donald Trump. Democrats’ next impeachment hearing is scheduled for Dec. 9.

German authorities arrested Onyshchenko based on a request from Ukraine’s National Anti-Corruption Bureau and Specialized Anti-Corruption Prosecutor’s Office (SAPO). According to a report from the UNIAN news agency, Ukrainian officials are awaiting a ruling from a German court on whether or not to extradite Onyshchenko.

After fleeing Ukraine in 2016, Onyshchenko claimed to have evidence of widespread corruption by then-Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, and he said he’d contacted the FBI with his claims. Two sources familiar with the events confirmed that he did meet with U.S. law enforcement officials in 2016 in an effort to build goodwill. The sources said Onyshchenko appeared to want to share information in hopes of obtaining a visa to travel to the U.S. The U.S. Justice Department confirmed meeting with him at the time but said it had “no plans to have further meetings or communications” with him after that, according to RFE/RL. His allegations were widely seen in Ukraine as part of a Kremlin-orchestrated disinformation campaign meant to undermine the Ukrainian government as it sought to strengthen ties with the West.

As the impeachment proceedings against President Trump took hold in October, Onyshchenko claimed to have inside information about Hunter Biden and his work for Burisma. He told Reuters that his friend Mykola Zlochevsky, who founded Burisma, had placed the vice president’s son on Burisma’s board as insurance against criminal investigations. The claim echoes those made by Rudy Giuliani and former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko. “It was to protect (the company),” he said.

This guy is exactly the sort of grifting con man that you would expect to be spouting this insanity. Onyschchenko is accused of embezzling $64 Million from a subsidiary of Naftogaz, Ukraine’s state-owned gas company. If that’s not enough, he was also accused of treason by Ukraine’s Security Service in 2016 for allegedly helping Russian intelligence destabilize Ukraine. Apparently the further destabllization of American politics was next on his agenda, and probably that was set up to be a lucrative proposition as well.

The GOP has decided to nest with some really foul creatures the past few years and Onyshchenko is the poster child for that proposition. And the personal attorney of the sitting president of the United States was dying to take a meeting with this guy and get him on tape to help smear a Democratic presidential nominee. I would say it’s unbelievable, but it’s not that at all — it’s the norm in 2019, at least for the likes of Giuliani and Trump. We cannot run these clowns out of town on a rail fast enough — and throw in the tar and feathers while you’re at it.

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35 Comments on "Giuliani’s Contact Who Claims To Have Dirt On Bidens Arrested In Germany"

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Tin woman1
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Thank you, Ursula. Trying to keep up with all the names and figuring out their place in the story.

gettin too old for this sh!t
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gettin too old for this sh!t

I would love to see “tarring and feathering and riding out of town on a rail” come back into vogue with this whole damn gang!

mae
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Please arrest Rudy next!

Miranda
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I want to help tar and feather all the corrupt members in the GOP in both houses of Congress. I am sure that somewhere there are some good Republicans, but I cannot identify them.

beadlady
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Can we all call them what they are? KGGOP. They are not longer the Grand Old Party. Russian Secret GOP. Spread it far and spread it wide. If Moscow Mitch pissed him off, let’s just keep doing it. It’s what they are and what they’re doing.

William Bockemuehl
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I don’t really want the Democrats to sink to that level…but imagine if an innovative writer created the explicit details of Trumps loans from Russian oligarchs! Imaginary, of course and still possibly completely true. Published the article and included pictures of the ‘golden showers’ episode that most have heard about. The hardest part would be finding an actor that looked like a convincing Trump, but also had a mushroom headed, pencil dick. I wonder if a prosthesis would suffice. Attacking fire with fire. Compromising pictures of Ivanka…Melania wouldn’t matter, we have already seen all she has to offer. Pollute the… Read more »
Nancy
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nasty and also totally ineffective. His sins are not going to budge his cultists one iota. You are just proposing to write porn. If that’s what you want, this isn’t the venue.

William Bockemuehl
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Thank you for your opinion.
Please share what YOU would consider an appropriate response.

dana fairfield
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Well, not that one.

William Bockemuehl
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So YOU can’t/won’t suggest a response either.

That’s OK. I have enough ideas to go around, but just like the GOP that won’t fight back against Trump.you’re not fighting back, just by not liking MY scenario, either.

Give us your ideas. Ideas are springboards. Come on. You can do it! Don’t be shy. Speak right up!

dana fairfield
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You don’t want Democrats to sink to that level, so you propose an even lower level. Riiight. You are committing a logical fallacy to suggest that if no one offers a competing idea in a forum like this, that makes your idea a good one. Your idea is prima facie bad; it does not require another idea to refute it. Your nasty sarcasm marks you as a troll, and therefore as not a serious person actually interested in fighting back or solving problems.

William Bockemuehl
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Actually, I started by saying that I DON’T want the Democrats to sink to that level, BUT…

Just today Trump has started claiming that the Dems are committing treason. Just saying NO, won’t change anybodies mind.

Refusing to think outside the box, won’t change anybodies mind.

I am sorry you can’t/won’t see that. Have a nice day.

dana fairfield
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What you are suggesting is NOT thinking outside the box; it is despicable. Such a tactic is tantamount to admitting defeat to Trump’s campaign to destroy the norms of our society and thereby the soul of America. Of course we can do more than just say NO. Trump’s words and tweets long ago lost credibility. It is his actions we need to fight. His stupid words are distraction.

William Bockemuehl
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I am sorry that you don’t see my point.

Have a nice life.

dana fairfield
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If seeing your point means condoning unconscionable action, then sure, I don’t and won’t see your point.

William Bockemuehl
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Well enjoy the next four years of Trump.
I won’t and will fight like crazy to stop him. There is nothing that could possibly be worse than 4 more years of Trump.

Again…have a nice life.

dana fairfield
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Of course, we should fight Trump, but not in unconscionable ways. You have not been discussing this in good faith.

William Bockemuehl
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All you have done is tell me I’m wrong and that you won’t make a suggestion, and I am the one not discussing this in good faith?

I think YOU are the troll!

dana fairfield
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I have told you what is wrong with such an unconscionable tactic. The onus is on you to defend it. No one is obligated to make an alternative suggestion to refute your tactic. All your nonsense replies come down to an acknowledgement that your tactic is heinous. An attempt to use Trump’s tactics against him is an admission of defeat. It means he wins. Long term, if it works at all, the damage to America will be irreparable. It might not work, and again the damage to America of such an attempt will also be irreparable.
William Bockemuehl
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And that is YOUR opinion.

You may NOT tell me what MY opinion should be. This is America, and I have served in our Armed Forces to protect the liberties that you enjoy.

Thank you, and once again…have a nice life.

dana fairfield
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One of the most unfortunate modern developments is the idea that all opinions are valid. They are not. An opinion is only as good as the facts and logic that support it. So far, you have been unable to defend your idea, or to refute the many moral and practical objections. Apart from everything else, the easily proven libel lawsuit alone would bankrupt you and everyone who conspired with you. https://injury.findlaw.com/torts-and-personal-injuries/defamation-law-the-basics.html

Playing the military service card will not earn heinous ideas a free pass. Besides, Semper Fi.

William Bockemuehl
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It is a real shame that you haven’t learned that, no matter what YOUR opinion is, you can’t tell me what MINE should be.

dana fairfield
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I did not tell you you could not have your invalid opinion. You can keep your invalid opinion if you want. It is still invalid because you can defend it.I suggest you hold strong opinions weakly, meaning you are able to assimilate new information, as opposed to holding weak opinions strongly.

dana fairfield
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Cannot defend it.