Removal Becomes Possible By Implementing a Simple Procedural Plan

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A new article in Politico busts through the “same-old, same-old” cycle in a way that might radically alter the tenor of the impeachment proceedings in the Senate, possibly leading to removal and a more solid future. There is a procedure which requires only three Republicans to implement. These three Republicans could insist upon an anonymous verdict-vote, granting cover to Republicans primarily concerned about the wrath from the White House and at home.

The procedural idea picks up on a theme that has become conventional wisdom, that there exists possibly thirty votes for removal were the vote anonymous. The fact that the procedural idea has been floated gives serious weight to what had previously been speculation.

As everyone knows, the constitution requires the Senate to try the matter after any House impeachment. It also states that the Chief Justice would oversee such a trial. The constitution is silent upon the procedure used by the senate. Normal senate rules either don’t apply, or could be altered. Thus, if a majority senators move to make voting on the verdict anonymous, that majority will have the power to impose such a rule, McConnell could not block it.

Now, Mitch McConnell is not going to come out of the gates insisting upon an anonymous verdict. He knows this is an “anti-Trump” move. (Which is telling). But if three Republican Senators moved to defect and vote with Democrats on procedure, those three Republicans become extraordinarily powerful.

One can easily see a situation where Mitt Romney, who is over four years from his next election might already be inclined to join the Democrats. He is from Utah, not wholly on board with Trump, and Romney clearly wants to be president someday. Additionally, five sitting Republicans are retiring at the end of this term, four of them are in their mid 70s and will surely not run again for office. If some pressure is placed upon any two of those five, the majority exists, granting sudden cover for any Republican senator caught in a box.

If it is established that voting on the verdict will be anonymous, that will change everything.

You can almost “feel” the possible new environment, can you not?

Up to this point, Trump got 99% of what he wanted through sheer intimidation, like the enraged teen who terrorizes parents into submission. He will ruthlessly bully anyone he perceives as crossing him. Republicans live in abject fear of the career-ending tweet, and the MAGA-head rage at home. Republican terror is so ingrained in today’s political landscape that it is near impossible to envision a world without it, a world in which Trump cannot “shoot them” on Fifth Avenue. It feels liberating to even consider a process freed from those specific consequences.

Last, an anonymous vote on conviction may determine the need for a trial at all. We talked about the iron fist Trump with which Trump rules. Imagine how impotent he would feel? How exposed? His rage would have no individual target. For the first time in office, Trump may feel real fear with regard to Republicans. He might resign prior to trial rather than risk a vote he cannot control. He must have control every bit as much as he must have loyalty. Take away his control and he may fear going into the history books as the only president to be convicted and removed by the senate. Additionally, if convicted, Trump has no control over post-presidency consequences.

Trump will know he can arrange a deal with Mike Pence by which he is pardoned in exchange for stepping down. It is also possible that Trump’s defense team will go to the NY AG and arrange a non-prosecution deal in exchange for his conciliatory step.

Such a deal will not please the screaming purists on the left. But I believe that is selfish of us, a demand that drips with entitlement. Trump needs to be out of the oval office. Minorities, immigrants, the marginalized, all subject to his wrath and policies, don’t have the luxury of awaiting our vengeance, which is speculative anyway. If Trump were to remove himself, that is a massive penalty that should act as a deterrent into the future.

But most importantly, we simply cannot trust the integrity of the 2020 election with Trump in office. We can’t even ensure a fair election without Trump, but we can come much closer. Our 2020-2024 plans depend wholly upon a free and fair election.

It is something that deserves serious consideration. But only at the right time.

For now, the original idea, the hunt for three Republicans, has some appeal because anything that diminishes the dictatorial wrath so important to Trump helps.

Maybe I am naïve and putting too much faith in Republicans. Maybe so. That doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t do everything possible to bring this about.

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Peace, y’all

Jason

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17 Comments on "Removal Becomes Possible By Implementing a Simple Procedural Plan"

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Cherl Harrell
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Excellent idea. I certainly hope this is what is being considered.

Bareshark
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Those purists on the left need to calm the f___ down. An anonymous vote by the Senate increases the problems for the GOP fools, not decrease them. We all know that should removal take place, Trump’s cult will be actively hunting for scapegoats to burn for betrayal. There’s already some visible dissension in the right wing ranks courtesy of the young play Nazis Trump stupidly invited into the spotlight. A lot of them remain loyal to Trump but ONLY Trump. He goes away, they’ll sit out 2020 at best or put every GOP senator on a hit list at worst.… Read more »
Inkdreamer
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Dr. Frankenstein lost control of his monster. This rabid wing of the party has been romanced, courted, and raised up in a manner that gives them immense power. I think Senators fear *rump only because he will weaponize his monster of a base.

While I agree that suffering people need relief, not our vengeance, I worry about letting him escape even state crimes. And I’m not sure white-haired guy will give anyone less pain. Still, removing el Presidente Pendejo is incredibly important, and I don’t trust the fairness of any election featuring him.

Lone Wolf
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He has to cheat. He can’t do anything on the up and up, he cheats in business, cheats on and with women, cheats at golf, he is a cheat, a lifelong, absolute, worthless cheat, and if it weren’t for Hillary being just so so and kinda sorta blah, and a little (a lot) of help from his Russian friends (masters), we wouldn’t be having to deal with his sorry cheating lying trash ass. Period.

Bareshark
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All true, Wolf, but haven’t you noticed how bad he sucks at cheating like he does everything else?

anastasjoy
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There was nothing “so so” or “kinda sorta blah” about Hillary. She was incredibly strong. and inspirational to dozens of women I know and hundreds more I encountered. This type of thinking is still a real anchor going into 2020 — that what women feel, believe and want is “kinda sorta blah” and what we need is perhaps a totally unqualified but very shiny young white man.

Bareshark
Guest

Don’t fear the Hoosier Mortician. He’s your standard incompetent GOP pol, the kind that makes Al Gore look compelling. No way he hangs onto power after Trump.

Joseph
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I wouldn’t be so quick to bank on that. Pence may be “incompetent” but, we’re talking about a NATIONAL level where “incompetence” is rarely a problem, especially with a GOP that’s been used to “controllable” Executives (hell, Obama wasn’t exactly “incompetent” but he was pretty well hamstrung by a MINORITY GOP for much of his administration). I mean, the ONLY reason his anti-gay bill got revoked in Indiana was because of companies threatening to pull out of the State or give serious reconsideration to possible relocation to the State. I don’t see too many companies threatening to leave the US… Read more »
Bareshark
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So much of the above, Joseph, is premised on the same faulty concept: that the GOP is just one strategically brilliant move from seizing the majority back. That’s the pain of previous defeats talking to you, not the available evidence of where things are ACTUALLY headed based on recent events. I’ll go you better…Pence is so systemic of strong, unified GOP leadership that more able predators in this food chain will eat him alive.

anastasjoy
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That may be, but if he pardons Trump, his political career is over., and he’d be dead weight on the ticket — absolutely sure to lose. They’d dump him in a heartbeat. And while it might seem on the surface like religious fanatic Pence is an evangelical’s dream, the religious right is no longer about principles of any kind — they are about blind worship of one man: Trump. Pence doesn’t evoke that kind of adulation.

anastasjoy
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Also I don’t think “purists in the left” need to fear either of these things: “Trump will know he can arrange a deal with Mike Pence by which he is pardoned in exchange for stepping down. It is also possible that Trump’s defense team will go to the NY AG and arrange a non-prosecution deal in exchange for his conciliatory step.” Should Pence do this, he’s writing his own political obituary. And it’s wildly unlikely that there’s going to be some sort of complex cross-jurisdictional agreement not to prosecute Trump in return for his stepping down. Since neither side can… Read more »
Lone Wolf
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The Dotard tweets this… Donald J. Trump “The President has until September 30th to give this aid to Ukraine. He gets it out on September 11th., 3 weeks before the deadline. So, we give our ally aid, and Joe Biden is not investigated. Remember that, they get the aid and we get nothing in return. The Democrats want that to be an impeachable offense? Good luck with that! Remember that, they get the aid and we get nothing in return Remember that, they get the aid and we get nothing in return Remember that, they get the aid and we… Read more »
chris whitley
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You sure you remember that. I don’t think you remember that.

Lone Wolf
Member

I asked the bank teller to give me the money, see, and told her nobody would get hurt. I asked her VERY nicely. You could say it was a PERFECT request.

Somebody called the cops, so I left the bank and she didn’t give it to me. So nobody got hurt.”

STILL A CRIME

michaelscott
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Wow, if “Tangerine Nixon” was pissed about an anonymous whistle-blower whose name he cannot know, imagine the cranial detonation that will occur when he has his own party toss his bloated carcass under the bus. i am giddy with joy over the prospect. Even if he gets pardoned and lives out his miserable life in the bedbug-infested Mar-a-lago white-trash Versailles. It will also let McTurtle dodge a bullet, but still a win for the country.

cassandra
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I love this idea! I have to wonder if Chuck Schumer has the balls to do it. Having said that, I was in high school when Nixon was impeached. Gerald Ford pardoned him and I believe set this whole downward spiral into lawlessness in motion. There must come a point when actions have consequences. We could argue that *rump being removed would be punishment beyond our imagining for his ego – that makes it delicious. Is it a deterrent though? Also republicans ended up looking like heroes. If we are to save our country that can’t happen.