Michael Cohen Says He Was Offered A Pardon, an Associate Of Guiliani Says No Way

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Aye, aye, aye. There’s a liars contest going on between Michael Cohen and an associate of Rudy Guiliani, lawyer Robert Costello. Cohen gave CNN a copy of an email that he had received after the raid on his home and offices in April, 2018 from Costello, which said Cohen could “sleep well tonight,” [due to his] “friends in high places.” Cohen claims that he was offered a pardon and Costello says emphatically not. Costello has known Guiliani for forty years, and was considering representing Cohen after the raid. That led to the emails to Cohen, and to Costello acting as intermediary between Cohen and Guiliani. CNN:

Costello said that one reason he spoke to Giuliani was because Cohen was concerned that Trump had soured on him — or thought that he had soured on Trump — following a New York Times report that detailed Trump’s poor treatment of Cohen. The conversations occurred just days after Giuliani had joined Trump’s legal team and Cohen’s office and home were searched.
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“He wanted to make sure that the boss or the big guy knew that he didn’t hate Trump. That he wasn’t blaming Trump,” Costello said. “There were reports out there that Trump hated Cohen, and that Cohen hated Trump… Michael couldn’t say whether Trump hated him. He didn’t think so. But he wanted to make sure that Trump knew that he didn’t hate Trump.”
Costello says that it was Cohen and his lawyers who asked about a pardon. Costello says he never “dangled a pardon” as Cohen is contending.
“Does dangled mean that he (Cohen) raised it and I mentioned it to Giuliani, and Giuliani said the President is not going to discuss pardons with anybody? If that’s dangling it, that’s dangling it for about 15 seconds,” said Costello….”The first time I kind of danced around the issue because Michael brought it up with me and I told him, ‘Look, this is way too premature. … But if you want me to bring it up, I will bring it up.’ And I did.”
Then there’s this:
A source with knowledge of Cohen’s thinking at the time disputes Costello’s version of events and insists it was Costello who was pushing his relationship with Giuliani. Another source familiar with the emails said that Trump’s legal team was trying to keep Cohen in the fold as a way to keep him quiet, hinting that a pardon could be in the mix at some point.
Bottom line, Cohen said in his statement to congress that he had “never asked for a pardon, nor would I accept one.” There are definitely two conflicting narratives here. Cohen testified that he spoke to another Trump lawyer, Jay Sekulow, directly, about a pardon. Sedulow denies it. Meanwhile, Adam Schiff tweeted Tuesday, “Congress is investigating reports that Trump and his legal team privately dangled pardons to obstruct investigations, including ours.” This is like watching ping pong.
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mae
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Who knows. They are all taking turns lying, it seerms.

Darrel
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Ping pong is an excellent example, two good players keeping the ball on the table is one goal, and the winning is getting it past the opponent, off the table, but in most games played at home in the basement or garage the bouncing-around ball with a mind of it’s own can take a minute to capture and return it to play, sometimes it is so radical a turn it takes, it can get lost in a dark corner or a pile of dirty laundry or a pile of cartons of things getting ready for a garage sale …

Darrel
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Frankly, Trump and his crew have shown an intense aversion to dealing in the truth at every turn, and now from the waves of questions and follow up statements from Mr. Schiff in his rabid pursuit of that evasive truth, using Cohen’s testimony, I’m convinced Cohen is telling things as he saw them occur, and Trump and his Giuliani are ALWAYS pedaling the biggest sack of shit in any pig barn out there …